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answer, david pecker. being in the publishing industry for 40 years i realized early in my career that the only thing that was important is the cover of a magazine. so when the editors produce a story or prepare the cover, we would have a meeting and they would present the story, what the concept was, what the cost would be. question, prosecutor. if the story involved for lack of a better way to say it, a big story or a famous person, did you have the final say on whether or not to publish the story. answer, david pecker. yes, i did. the first witness in the criminal trial of former president donald trump today was david pecker, the former ceo of american media inc. ami, the company that used to own the national enquirer. two salient points here about that testimony from david pecker. he's only on the stand for like half an hour today, but we get all of this salient stuff for the prosecution's case. first of all, there's what he said about what counts as a normal amount of money for the kind of checkbook j
answer, david pecker. being in the publishing industry for 40 years i realized early in my career that the only thing that was important is the cover of a magazine. so when the editors produce a story or prepare the cover, we would have a meeting and they would present the story, what the concept was, what the cost would be. question, prosecutor. if the story involved for lack of a better way to say it, a big story or a famous person, did you have the final say on whether or not to publish the...
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we start this afternoon in lower manhattan were former "national enquirer" david -- publisher david pecker was back on the stand today in donald trump's criminal trial record detailed with the former president in years. >> sandra: outside of the u.s. supreme court what came from today's testimony? >> sandra court wrapped up in the past minutes we will keep an eye out for president trump to see if he speaks but one of the most notable moment so far today is prosecutor joshua steinbach identifying the so-called "other crime" president trump is told was committing and identify the law that reads "conspiracy to promote or prevent election any turtle or more persons who conspired to prevent the election of someone by unlawful means in which conspiracy is acted upon by one or more of the parties thereto shall be guilty of a misdemeanor" it's worth pointing out, sandra, that these records that former president trump is accused of falsifying were internal business records area rather than external records and the d.a.'s office argued he did that to promote a conspiracy to when the white house as y
we start this afternoon in lower manhattan were former "national enquirer" david -- publisher david pecker was back on the stand today in donald trump's criminal trial record detailed with the former president in years. >> sandra: outside of the u.s. supreme court what came from today's testimony? >> sandra court wrapped up in the past minutes we will keep an eye out for president trump to see if he speaks but one of the most notable moment so far today is prosecutor...
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then prosecutors calling the first witness, david pecker, to the stand. the former publisher of the national inquirer, who was part of a scheme prosecutors say called catch and kill. abc's senior investigative correspondent aaron katersky leading us off from the courthouse again tonight. >> reporter: donald trump walking into the manhattan courtroom where today for the first time in history a jury heard testimony in a criminal case against a former american president. >> it's a very, very sad day in america. i can tell you that. >> reporter: with trump slouching in his seat and sometimes closing his eyes, prosecutor matthew colangelo began his opening statement charging trump "orchestrated a criminal scheme to corrupt the 2016 presidential election." taking notes, as the prosecutor laid out his case, accusing trump of falsifying business records to disguise a $130,000 hush payment to porn star stormy daniels days before the election, so voters wouldn't find out about her claim of an affair. at the time, trump was under pressure. news had just broken of th
then prosecutors calling the first witness, david pecker, to the stand. the former publisher of the national inquirer, who was part of a scheme prosecutors say called catch and kill. abc's senior investigative correspondent aaron katersky leading us off from the courthouse again tonight. >> reporter: donald trump walking into the manhattan courtroom where today for the first time in history a jury heard testimony in a criminal case against a former american president. >> it's a...
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court resumes tomorrow. >> so david pecker is back on the stand tomorrow. one of the pieces that came out in the prosecution's opening but we haven't gotten to it in his testimony yet is the fact that after these payments were made from ami to dino the doorman and to karen mcdougal, after the election, they were released from their ndas. that is critical because, again, what was the purpose of these hush money payments, just to make a hush money payment, it's not illegal, right? but to do it to influence the election and when they're above certain limits, that's what makes it an illegal campaign contribution. so the fact that these were for the purpose of the campaign is critical, and when you have these ndas being released right after the election saying, okay, go ahead, talk as much as you want now, it's very clear what the purpose of the payments were. it was for the campaign. like, you look at the john edwards' case, right, where there was an acquittal on hush money payments. there were hush money payments there being made after the election. that's par
court resumes tomorrow. >> so david pecker is back on the stand tomorrow. one of the pieces that came out in the prosecution's opening but we haven't gotten to it in his testimony yet is the fact that after these payments were made from ami to dino the doorman and to karen mcdougal, after the election, they were released from their ndas. that is critical because, again, what was the purpose of these hush money payments, just to make a hush money payment, it's not illegal, right? but to do...
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. >> former american media ceo and president david pecker testified today. he made a secret agreement to benefit former president donald trump's 2016 campaign. pecker testified, quote: i would be the eyes and ears, working with trump's former lawyer michael cohen to suppress negative stories about trump and publish negative stories about his opponents. including former president bill clinton and former secretary of state then presidential candidate hillary clinton. trump says this trial is benefiting his current political adversary, president joe biden. >> it's very unfair situation. we're locked up in a courtroom and this guy is out there campaigning. >> pecker testified he and cohen identified and suppressed stories from former playboy model karen macdougall and a false story from a trump tower door man. today judge juan merchan reserved his decision about whether or not trump violated the court's gag order by sharing articles online about witnesses in the case. >> names mentioned in the article. and i end up in violation of a gag order. i think it's a dis
. >> former american media ceo and president david pecker testified today. he made a secret agreement to benefit former president donald trump's 2016 campaign. pecker testified, quote: i would be the eyes and ears, working with trump's former lawyer michael cohen to suppress negative stories about trump and publish negative stories about his opponents. including former president bill clinton and former secretary of state then presidential candidate hillary clinton. trump says this trial...
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tabloid mogul david pecker is at that 2015 meeting at trump tower as we mentioned. he's useful for prosecutors because he puts mr. trump in the room for this alleged plot. he's also useful because his name is not michael cohen and his testimony will continue tomorrow, lester. >> all right, laura, thank you. and hallie, this is a partisan prosecution in the opinion of mr. trump. >> yeah, that's what his campaign's been saying. and in some ways what we just heard in court, what laura has laid out, echoes what we have also heard from mr. trump himself on the campaign trail. his defense, casting him as a fighter, aggressively attacking central players in this case. familiar themes. now, the trump campaign's trying to show that the former president can kind of walk and chew gum at the same time by setting a meeting with the former japanese prime minister after court wraps tomorrow. but for mr. trump, remember, he's a person who used to run his own business. he ran the country from the white house. one thing has been clear in this trial. he does not run this courtroom. he
tabloid mogul david pecker is at that 2015 meeting at trump tower as we mentioned. he's useful for prosecutors because he puts mr. trump in the room for this alleged plot. he's also useful because his name is not michael cohen and his testimony will continue tomorrow, lester. >> all right, laura, thank you. and hallie, this is a partisan prosecution in the opinion of mr. trump. >> yeah, that's what his campaign's been saying. and in some ways what we just heard in court, what laura...
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trump. >> david pecker is a very strong witness for the prosecution. he seems very solid on the stand. he certainly seems like he doesn't have any ax to grind with donald trump and seems almost apologetic for having to tell this story. >> reporter: on the stand, pecker said trump called him about another story he wanted kept quiet. that a former "playboy" model karen mcdougal, who claimed to have had a ten month long affair with trump in 2006, which he denies. >> after we had been intimate, he tried to pin me, and i actually didn't know how to take that. >> reporter: four days before the 2016 election, "the wall street journal" reported that american media, which owned the "enquirer" at the time that had paid mcdougal $150,000 for the rights to her story, which was never published. in the gag order here, the prosecution argued trump should be held in contempt for all of his scathing commentary about this case. trump lawyer todd blanche said his client has been careful with his words. to that, the judge said, that's% just not credible. maurice? >> mauri
trump. >> david pecker is a very strong witness for the prosecution. he seems very solid on the stand. he certainly seems like he doesn't have any ax to grind with donald trump and seems almost apologetic for having to tell this story. >> reporter: on the stand, pecker said trump called him about another story he wanted kept quiet. that a former "playboy" model karen mcdougal, who claimed to have had a ten month long affair with trump in 2006, which he denies. >>...
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where michael cohen and trump and david pecker had this agreement where david pecker would be the eyes and ears of the campaign and look out for those negative stories. give cohen a heads up and try to suppress it. so it's important he is the lead off witness because it sets the stage. he's the one, of course he was in charge of at the head of ami, in charge of the national enquirer. it sets the stage and just sort of provides for the jury. it started as soon as donald trump announced he was running for president. >> charles, does it matter that they were long time friends, associates, people who worked together for a long time? does that give him more credibility? >> i think it does. the prosecutors are going to tie that into their narrative around why you should believe him and why he's credible. i think when you're setting the stage, giving a jury a very clear picture around what's happening, you have to give to the jury a reason why you should be believing these witnesses and their testimony. so for the reasons you've just mentioned, i think that pecker is going to be a very import
where michael cohen and trump and david pecker had this agreement where david pecker would be the eyes and ears of the campaign and look out for those negative stories. give cohen a heads up and try to suppress it. so it's important he is the lead off witness because it sets the stage. he's the one, of course he was in charge of at the head of ami, in charge of the national enquirer. it sets the stage and just sort of provides for the jury. it started as soon as donald trump announced he was...
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david pecker grinning widely as he pointed out trump in the courtroom, the former president smirking back. the two men had been friends for years. but pecker told the jury their relationship changed in 2015, after trump launched his run for president, pecker was summoned to trump tower that august, and in a 20-minute meeting, he said trump and cohen asked me, what can i do and what my magazines can do to help the campaign. pecker testified he pledged to run flattering stories about trump and hit jobs on his opponents, and he offered to be the campaign's eyes and ears to alert cohen if he caught wind of any potentially damaging stories. pecker said he told trump he'd try to kill those stories so they'd never see the light of day. as pecker described that trump tower meeting, jurors were rapt, taking constant notes. pecker laid out how he worked with trump and cohen to publish attacks on rival republican candidates. cohen would tell him who to go after, and the magazine would do it. pecker admitted the enquirer fabricated a story falsely linking cruz's father with the kennedy assassina
david pecker grinning widely as he pointed out trump in the courtroom, the former president smirking back. the two men had been friends for years. but pecker told the jury their relationship changed in 2015, after trump launched his run for president, pecker was summoned to trump tower that august, and in a 20-minute meeting, he said trump and cohen asked me, what can i do and what my magazines can do to help the campaign. pecker testified he pledged to run flattering stories about trump and...
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let's start now with the testimony of david pecker. of course, explain why prosecutors called him as their first went. sure. and there's no science briana as to why you'd ever put a witness on you want someone who's palling and got something to say and david pecker is exactly that in this case, he's a former publisher of the national enquirer and was said to be in acknowledged being involved in an effort to stop this embarrassing conduct about foreign president trump from getting public ahead of the 2016 election. now there's a long history of the national enquirer number one, pushing out stories that were very favorable to the former president and very critical of his opponents. and that's ted cruz there, senator from texas. he was running against at the time a number of critical articles of hillary clinton senator at the first lady as well and so that's sort of the national enquirer's role in all of this. and david pecker had a hand in it explain why he's crucial enough that they're calling him considering there is a risk here, which
let's start now with the testimony of david pecker. of course, explain why prosecutors called him as their first went. sure. and there's no science briana as to why you'd ever put a witness on you want someone who's palling and got something to say and david pecker is exactly that in this case, he's a former publisher of the national enquirer and was said to be in acknowledged being involved in an effort to stop this embarrassing conduct about foreign president trump from getting public ahead...
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>> david pecker? >> yeah. >> i felt there were some partings of what he was saying were credible, but he was definitely more inclined to help the former president. >> definitely sounded pro trump throughout his entire thing. >> what was it he said or what was it about his demeanor, hope, that made you think he wanted to help donald trump? >> throughout his entire interview basically, he was talking a lot about, oh, yes, they were, we were referring to the boss, mr. trump. and lots of pro trump language throughout his entire argument. and social studies class, we learn a lot about bias and bias in the media and bias in all different sorts of stories. so it was very interesting to hear how someone actually in court was showing the same bias that we've seen in the media sometimes. >> testimony, also -- >> go ahead, owen. sorry. >> okay. his testimony also reflected how crucial this whole case michael cohen is and will be when he takes the stand in a few weeks. >> i have to ask you both very quickly, what
>> david pecker? >> yeah. >> i felt there were some partings of what he was saying were credible, but he was definitely more inclined to help the former president. >> definitely sounded pro trump throughout his entire thing. >> what was it he said or what was it about his demeanor, hope, that made you think he wanted to help donald trump? >> throughout his entire interview basically, he was talking a lot about, oh, yes, they were, we were referring to the...
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that from david pecker, the publisher of the "national enquirer" who will testify about the so-called catch and kill scheme in order to hide information damaging to the former president. then witness number two later this week, mcdougal, the former playboy playmate who claims she had a ten month affair with the president and paid for her silence by the "national enquirer" so voters would not find out about it during the 2016 presidential race. bret, back to you. >> bret: we don't have specific timing how long this will take to get this ruling, whatever it is this morning. >> no, we don't know if the judge will immediately rule on the bench or if he will take it under consideration. he will hear the arguments from both sides, prosecutors citing ten of those truth social posts and comments by the president saying he violated the gag order and should be punished for that. >> bret: eric, thanks. >> dana: we're waiting for president biden to hit the campaign trail today and he could get questions about the anti-israel protests on college campuses. we'll monitor that. plus there is this. >>
that from david pecker, the publisher of the "national enquirer" who will testify about the so-called catch and kill scheme in order to hide information damaging to the former president. then witness number two later this week, mcdougal, the former playboy playmate who claims she had a ten month affair with the president and paid for her silence by the "national enquirer" so voters would not find out about it during the 2016 presidential race. bret, back to you. >>...
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the first witness in the trial expected to be david pecker. he was the publisher of the "national enquirer" and friend of former president trump expected to testify against him according to reports. pecker, when he takes the stand, is expected to outline the so-called catch and kill scheme was cooked up with trump running for president at the time and his long time lawyer michael cohen. ami admitted it tried to influence the 2016 presidential election by paying former playmate mcdougal $150,000 to keep the story of her alleged affair with trump under wraps during the campaign on top of the $130,000 cohen says he paid stormy daniels. manhattan district attorney alvin bragg said trump said they were for cohen's legal fees. >> the grand jury found 34 documents with this critical false statement. why did donald trump repeatedly make these false statements? the evidence will show that he did so to cover up crimes relating to the 2016 election. >> but the former president and defendant has been harshly criticizing the case saying he left everything
the first witness in the trial expected to be david pecker. he was the publisher of the "national enquirer" and friend of former president trump expected to testify against him according to reports. pecker, when he takes the stand, is expected to outline the so-called catch and kill scheme was cooked up with trump running for president at the time and his long time lawyer michael cohen. ami admitted it tried to influence the 2016 presidential election by paying former playmate...
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the former national enquirer publisher david pecker on the stand and now being questioned by the trump legal team. earlier he detailed a phone call he had with the former president about payments made to karen mcdougal. he claimed trump was upset that stormy daniels broke in agreement not to use his name. and welcome everyone and sandra smith and for neil cavuto, this is your world. it's a busy day in the trump legal world we've got you covered with fox team coverage. nate foy on the new york trial of what's going on inside the courtroom right now. are legal eagles jonathan and andy mccarthy, katie czajkowski are here. we begin with nate in new york. hague nate. >> reporter: hey sandra. you mention the cross-examination of former american media ceo and resident david packer underway trump's lawyers asking him about his dealings with the former president but the timeline dates back to long before he was running for office or was present of the united states. 's lawyers notably brought up an interaction the 2 had from 1988 when becker notified trump about a negative story coming from an
the former national enquirer publisher david pecker on the stand and now being questioned by the trump legal team. earlier he detailed a phone call he had with the former president about payments made to karen mcdougal. he claimed trump was upset that stormy daniels broke in agreement not to use his name. and welcome everyone and sandra smith and for neil cavuto, this is your world. it's a busy day in the trump legal world we've got you covered with fox team coverage. nate foy on the new york...
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david pecker is our first witness today. he is taking the stand right now. we aren't going to show it, but we do not have producers in the stands. dropping out of that, forgive me. i started listening to this. by that matters is the last hour, what i learned from a former federal prosecutor is that you've got a couple of liars that are witnesses in this case. michael cohen being one, david pecker according to my guest also one of those lawyers on the stand. we are going to watch a person who was accused of doing that catch and kill where you get a negative story during your campaign and you pay somebody some money to speak about it, and you never publish that st story. >> kayleigh: potentially hearing from michael menotti who has a less than sterling reputation is a 12-year sentence. a lot of characters. as i'm watching this report, it occurred to me, the democrats thought this would in meyer trumpian negative coverage, a salacious story that people could grab onto. we are hearing what david pecker said via a reporter. we will hear what any of these witnesse
david pecker is our first witness today. he is taking the stand right now. we aren't going to show it, but we do not have producers in the stands. dropping out of that, forgive me. i started listening to this. by that matters is the last hour, what i learned from a former federal prosecutor is that you've got a couple of liars that are witnesses in this case. michael cohen being one, david pecker according to my guest also one of those lawyers on the stand. we are going to watch a person who...
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david pecker is the first witness going to be on the stand. he stopped by and saw construction workers and told alexis mcadams they'll make a play for new york. this is a bit of news even though rumors about it. the president said they're trying to book madison square garden for a rally and they would honor police, firefighters and teachers. everything from the economic number that just came in. gdp growth at 1.6%. lower than most people thought it would be. what does that mean? he talked about the border, talked about crime. and he talked about this case in particular. on the supreme court, he said that this judge, merchan, here in new york thinks of himself as above the supreme court and this is it's unfortunate. that's a summary for you, gillian, as we move along with our show now. >> gillian: thank you. let's bring in criminal defense attorney jonna spilbor to talk more about this very important case in new york supreme court. the jury will decide whether trump is guilty or innocent. he is well aware of the fact that he is on trial before
david pecker is the first witness going to be on the stand. he stopped by and saw construction workers and told alexis mcadams they'll make a play for new york. this is a bit of news even though rumors about it. the president said they're trying to book madison square garden for a rally and they would honor police, firefighters and teachers. everything from the economic number that just came in. gdp growth at 1.6%. lower than most people thought it would be. what does that mean? he talked about...
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trump, what do you think of david pecker? >> reporter: pecker describing a meeting at trump tower in 2015 with mr. trump and his former fixer michael cohen, where pecker says he agreed to serve as the eyes and ears for rumors that could hurt mr. trump, adding, "what i would do is publish positive stories about trump and publish negative stories about his opponents." the prosecution then showing the jury a series of glowing headlines about then candidate trump and derogatory ones making baseless claims about mr. trump's republican opponents, including ted cruz. pecker admitting today the enquirer made up a story about cruz's father and the man who assassinated jfk. also testifying his company paid a doorman $30,000 for a completely untrue story about mr. trump fathering a child with his housekeeper so the doorman couldn't take the story elsewhere, trying to save mr. trump and the campaign the potential embarrassment. the day began with the judge taking the defense team to task over mr. trump's posts on social media targeting c
trump, what do you think of david pecker? >> reporter: pecker describing a meeting at trump tower in 2015 with mr. trump and his former fixer michael cohen, where pecker says he agreed to serve as the eyes and ears for rumors that could hurt mr. trump, adding, "what i would do is publish positive stories about trump and publish negative stories about his opponents." the prosecution then showing the jury a series of glowing headlines about then candidate trump and derogatory ones...
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and david, you're thoughts about what we're learning for the first time from david pecker's testimony? >> it is pretty stark. to think about practices that were in affect at the national enquirer. if you stopped someone on the street and said is the gossip tabloid going be an avatar or have secret agendas made for the stories they public or don't publish. and people thought gosh, there might be some give and take maybe there is some favoritism. but what we've learned about here is that this tabloid, that is consumed by millions of people, often on check out stands and often at home, often these days online, shared on social media, was picking and killing what stories to publish on the basis of what would help a friend ofity publisher david pecker, a friend by the name of donald trump and according to pecker's own testimony, what might embarrass his presidential came in that 2016 cycle. pecker was on board in 2016 walking through stories with michael cohen about what things they should pick to go after, hillary clinton and he had previous thought about what kind of stories earlier in t
and david, you're thoughts about what we're learning for the first time from david pecker's testimony? >> it is pretty stark. to think about practices that were in affect at the national enquirer. if you stopped someone on the street and said is the gossip tabloid going be an avatar or have secret agendas made for the stories they public or don't publish. and people thought gosh, there might be some give and take maybe there is some favoritism. but what we've learned about here is that...
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david pecker said, yes, it was later david pecker testified, we didn't want the story to embarrass mr. trump or embarrassed or hurt that campaign prosecutors are going to say, look, the motive was campaign donald trump's team is going to say well, there was also a personal motive here for donald trump's. so look for that on cross now eventually they enter into a contract with karen mcdougal, ami, david pecker enters into a contract that donald trump himself was not part of. and david pecker said the purpose of that agreement was to disguise the true nature of the contract. they didn't want the public learning about karen mcdougal's allegations. now that brings us to sort of between chapter two and chapter three. the big thing that happens is the access hollywood tape came out and the jury's not seeing that tape, but they've learned about it. this is where donald trump gets caught on camera talking about, you can grab them by the blank, et cetera. we remember that tape and pecker said, when that takes it came out, it was very embarrassing, very damaging. again, to the campaign importan
david pecker said, yes, it was later david pecker testified, we didn't want the story to embarrass mr. trump or embarrassed or hurt that campaign prosecutors are going to say, look, the motive was campaign donald trump's team is going to say well, there was also a personal motive here for donald trump's. so look for that on cross now eventually they enter into a contract with karen mcdougal, ami, david pecker enters into a contract that donald trump himself was not part of. and david pecker...
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they're making the connection the david pecker and donald trump were friends david pecker, one point said, the defense attorneys are making the argument. yes. no, no, no, no. the prosecutor prosecutes because they wanted to say david pecker wouldn't be doing this to hurt donald trump. he liked it and he said at one point, i felt that donald trump was my mentor. he helped me throughout my career. i still consider them close even though we haven't spoken. i still consider him a friend. so trump's attorney or the defense attorney, emile bove, is asking you a series of questions since right now, if david pecker, the witness, about how prosecutors in fact prepared pecker to give, quote, consistent testimony. >> every time he's testified, david chatterley and some very interesting testimony not long ago this afternoon, we're david pecker recalled a phone conversation. he had with trump's white house team at the time according to mr. packer, hope hicks, and sarah huckabee sanders sara was the communications director or the press secretary, and hope x was a special assistant to the president
they're making the connection the david pecker and donald trump were friends david pecker, one point said, the defense attorneys are making the argument. yes. no, no, no, no. the prosecutor prosecutes because they wanted to say david pecker wouldn't be doing this to hurt donald trump. he liked it and he said at one point, i felt that donald trump was my mentor. he helped me throughout my career. i still consider them close even though we haven't spoken. i still consider him a friend. so trump's...
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david pecker is a narrator for this case. and he's laying out the scheme, the multiple times that they killed any bad evidence against donald trump, and that they promoted bad evidence against his opponents. so you have this, you know, like you're building a house and now you have the framework. then you get to michael cohen, and it's already been built up, so he sounds sensible and okay. and then you have the documents. and you can't rebut the documents. donald trump signed those checks. you have the tape recordings. donald trump said, oh, yeah, i know, let's just use cash. no, no, no. so i think the defense really has its work cut out for it. one of the senior people on the watergate case, one said, you know, there are some cases that no one can win. there are some cases where you have to pound the table with the facts because you have the facts. some where you have the law, you emphasize the law, and some where you don't have anything. and even clarence darryl couldn't win the case. so i don't think blanch is clarence daro
david pecker is a narrator for this case. and he's laying out the scheme, the multiple times that they killed any bad evidence against donald trump, and that they promoted bad evidence against his opponents. so you have this, you know, like you're building a house and now you have the framework. then you get to michael cohen, and it's already been built up, so he sounds sensible and okay. and then you have the documents. and you can't rebut the documents. donald trump signed those checks. you...
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and then donald trump and david pecker. talking about our girl karen. >> our girl karen and the way he says our girl karen speaks to the idea that he has actually has a relationship with her and this is an alleged ten-month relationship and i did think it was -- you know, and the david pecker stories of new york of old, right. like i mean, ron emanuel and ron perelman. i mean these are people, these are new york people. he sort of served as a kind of press secretary for new york people and he would somehow pump these gossipy tabloid stories into the magazine. what i think is the most interesting is that we saw they had -- they showed some of the stories that the "national enquirer" ran against ted cruz and marco rubio and they were so crazy. >> crazy. >> a lot of them based on almost nothing, right, like the ted cruz -- that dad was somehow a killer. i mean the zodiac killer. completely crazy. what's so like almost tragic to me is ted cruz is now so on team trump -- >> so is rubio. >> right. neither have said anything about
and then donald trump and david pecker. talking about our girl karen. >> our girl karen and the way he says our girl karen speaks to the idea that he has actually has a relationship with her and this is an alleged ten-month relationship and i did think it was -- you know, and the david pecker stories of new york of old, right. like i mean, ron emanuel and ron perelman. i mean these are people, these are new york people. he sort of served as a kind of press secretary for new york people...
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david pecker says yes. steinglass says, did he ever say he was concerned about melania or how ivanka might feel. pecker says no, he invited me to the inauguration and he was going to get a cell phone number. that never transpired. pecker says he did not go to the inauguration and he asked his wife, and she said she didn't want to go either, so they didn't go. this is pecker saying this was -- part of the defense argument has been this is about protecting melania. he didn't want to embarrass me -- melania. and pecker said it was more about the campaign. >> it's on two levels. legally it's important. to have the campaign finance why it's a felony, this is so called john edwards defense, i did this for my family, not the campaign. the principal with the agreement with the other principal, david becker, donald trump. to have him say this was about the campaign, not his personal family goes directly to the legal theory. on the emotional side, just imagine you're a juror, you're in court, donald trump is sitting
david pecker says yes. steinglass says, did he ever say he was concerned about melania or how ivanka might feel. pecker says no, he invited me to the inauguration and he was going to get a cell phone number. that never transpired. pecker says he did not go to the inauguration and he asked his wife, and she said she didn't want to go either, so they didn't go. this is pecker saying this was -- part of the defense argument has been this is about protecting melania. he didn't want to embarrass me...
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with david pecker for this favorable treatment? >> i think in most campaigns you don't see that it may be the case that a newspaper or media outlet will endorse a particular candidate. but i don't think we've ever seen a situation where a particular candidate goes to the outlet and negotiates with them for favorable treatment of his campaign and unfavorable treatment of his opponents. so that's unusual and the way the prosecution has framed yet this is essentially a psap to the trump campaign as though it were a contribution in kight. and i think that's a theory of the case, whether or not the jurors by this as a contribution, i think is a different story, but that seems to be where the prosecution is taking that this is a coordinated effort. it is unusual and extraordinary and it essentially amounts to the kinds of influence peddling that we typically don't see between the media and a campaign. >> but the money is the core of it, isn't it? i mean, the fact that yeah. i mean, that's just to me the strongest ground that the prosecut
with david pecker for this favorable treatment? >> i think in most campaigns you don't see that it may be the case that a newspaper or media outlet will endorse a particular candidate. but i don't think we've ever seen a situation where a particular candidate goes to the outlet and negotiates with them for favorable treatment of his campaign and unfavorable treatment of his opponents. so that's unusual and the way the prosecution has framed yet this is essentially a psap to the trump...
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and david pecker is testimony. i think it will come out later on thursday, but the idea that donald trump had to gross up michael cohen in order to make him whole for the payments because he is actually bursting him for what was being classified as payments for legal services, even though there had been no legal services rendered. so that's the given multi here. and i think what the prosecution is trying to show and there's a lot of discussion of donald trump's hands and all of this is that he's very much a micro manager. he is taking really close looks at what the money is, where the money is going to whom it is going and this is just david pecker and michael cohen doing his bidding, but he is the mastermind, essentially the puppet master, and they are simply the puppets jeff, the prosecutor questioning david pecker, noted today in court that the one in the election statutes, the case is based on does have a conspiracy provision. >> what does that say to you about the way that the prosecution is trying to frame we
and david pecker is testimony. i think it will come out later on thursday, but the idea that donald trump had to gross up michael cohen in order to make him whole for the payments because he is actually bursting him for what was being classified as payments for legal services, even though there had been no legal services rendered. so that's the given multi here. and i think what the prosecution is trying to show and there's a lot of discussion of donald trump's hands and all of this is that...
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he escorts david pecker up to trump's office. he walks in and he sees this incredible assembly of men, like -- >> james comey. >> james comey, like the head of the fbi was there, reince priebus, this group of people. they're talking about government business. and donald trump introduces david pecker to the room and he says, he knows more than anybody in this room. and it was a joke, as david pecker pointed out. nobody laughed. >> especially comey. he's probably like, how is this my life? >> then, just to show you how obsessed he was with karen mcdougal, he calls -- so "national enquirer" is standing there, and he calls him over to the side, and he says how is our girl doing? >> there seemed to be a real obsession that donald trump had with karen mcdougal. >> he seemed to have brought her up and followed up and said how is our girl? he was interested enough or hoar may have been interested in asking a way, hey, she's still quiet, isn't she? >> at the white house where he goes to the white house for his dinner, and donald trump and
he escorts david pecker up to trump's office. he walks in and he sees this incredible assembly of men, like -- >> james comey. >> james comey, like the head of the fbi was there, reince priebus, this group of people. they're talking about government business. and donald trump introduces david pecker to the room and he says, he knows more than anybody in this room. and it was a joke, as david pecker pointed out. nobody laughed. >> especially comey. he's probably like, how is...
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that's why david pecker, zero to sort of bolster him up. but that doesn't give donald trump the right to do what he is doing with that gag order, fight it out in the courtroom. let your tuner attorneys do their job, miss the were you surprised, judge merchan hasn't rendered an immediate decision on the gag order violations. yeah. >> i wasn't surprised because he's got to go through each individual instance, the prosecution is alleging and make a determination about whether or not that violates at an also think about what's the penalty going to be to send a message but not go too far. so i think we're having decision was what i would've expected. >> all right. misty marris, jeremy saland. thank you. so both you pecker described the tactics of quote, checkbook journalism and catch and kill. just how often that's used and why it's so specific to this case, that's next what is it about the titanic? >> why are we so obsessed with this ship every piece of evidence tells a story 50 years later? it's still leading people to her death. >> this speci
that's why david pecker, zero to sort of bolster him up. but that doesn't give donald trump the right to do what he is doing with that gag order, fight it out in the courtroom. let your tuner attorneys do their job, miss the were you surprised, judge merchan hasn't rendered an immediate decision on the gag order violations. yeah. >> i wasn't surprised because he's got to go through each individual instance, the prosecution is alleging and make a determination about whether or not that...
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he watched david pecker walk into the courtroom, he watched david pecker in the witness box, that's what we're hearing from inside the courtroom today, very similarly. the other thing i noticed about trump yesterday is he kept looking at the jury. when they came in and out, which happens several times during any court session, he followed them very closely as they walked in and out of the jury box, looked at them in the jury box. not clear whether he's simply look for some sort of indication of how they're leaning or perhaps trying to intimidate a little bit, but had his eyes very focused on them in addition to pecker yesterday, i assume that will go on throughout the trial. >> david axelrod writes that trump is a man who is bred to believe the rules don't apply to him and presents himself as peerless and left to sit silently by edict of the court as a jury of his peers decides his fate. look, rachel maddow said this yesterday on our air, none of us are body language experts. if you believe that is something that can be sort of read with certainty, but anyone, anyone on trial for a crime
he watched david pecker walk into the courtroom, he watched david pecker in the witness box, that's what we're hearing from inside the courtroom today, very similarly. the other thing i noticed about trump yesterday is he kept looking at the jury. when they came in and out, which happens several times during any court session, he followed them very closely as they walked in and out of the jury box, looked at them in the jury box. not clear whether he's simply look for some sort of indication of...
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with more testimony from david pecker. joining us now is joyce vance, former u.s. attorney, mia wylie, former civil attorney in new york, and hugo, covering washington and all things donald trump. joyce, i want to start with you. we've talked often about trying cases. when you have your case in chief, that primacy is how you do this. you start and end strong when it comes to the presentation of your witnesses. was it smart for the prosecution to start with david pecker thus far? >> well, it was smart, katie, and i am reminded that it was you who first said that you thought david pecker would be a great kickoff witness. i think that's the case, right? this is someone who doesn't have the baggage of a michael cohen, and who tells the origin story. he has now walked us through the election interference conspiracy. this is now patch and kill to elect trump. that's the case that the prosecution will put on. they've done a great job of giving the jury sort of the basics, the land marks and the road map that they'll move ahead on
with more testimony from david pecker. joining us now is joyce vance, former u.s. attorney, mia wylie, former civil attorney in new york, and hugo, covering washington and all things donald trump. joyce, i want to start with you. we've talked often about trying cases. when you have your case in chief, that primacy is how you do this. you start and end strong when it comes to the presentation of your witnesses. was it smart for the prosecution to start with david pecker thus far? >> well,...
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trump and david pecker the ceo of the national enquirer's, an individual named david pecker well, david, his good friends with donald trump. >> they have a friendship that goes back for many years. in fact, the national enquirer has endorsed donald trump, has said he must be president i had nothing to do with the national enquirer story. and frankly, i hope it's not true because it's pretty bad so ted cruz got one thing wrong in the extended version of those comments, which was he implied it was roger stone who is acting as the emissary with david pecker and donald trump, obviously as we now know, and we'll hear from him on the witness stand. >> it was my phil cohen who is doing all of this. >> but what ted cruz got closer to than really anyone did at that time was that relationship between the two of them and it then it was not a known entity, a known quantity like it is now, like we saw the details coming out and you saw donald trump also doing other interviews about the claim that ted cruz is father was fault with lee harvey oswald trump would go on tv and say, well, the national enq
trump and david pecker the ceo of the national enquirer's, an individual named david pecker well, david, his good friends with donald trump. >> they have a friendship that goes back for many years. in fact, the national enquirer has endorsed donald trump, has said he must be president i had nothing to do with the national enquirer story. and frankly, i hope it's not true because it's pretty bad so ted cruz got one thing wrong in the extended version of those comments, which was he implied...
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david pecker will be back. he spoke for about 30 minutes or so in testimony yesterday after those opening statements. anything that stuck out to you and just how important is he to this case? >> david pecker may in fact be the people's star witness and not michael cohen. david pecker may ultimately be a better witness for a few different reasons. number one, he has some baggage, but he doesn't have the baggage of a michael cohen. number two, he's going to lay the foundation of this pre-existing relationship and this catch and kill arrangement. and that's going to match up to a lot of documents that the state is going to introduce. number three, he was a friend of donald trump's. so his testimony may be more credible for that reason. he may be testifying about something we're not anticipating, and it might be about a direct conversation with donald trump, because, remember, that there were these entries in business records can be shown from the records with the state, with the people need to show is donald trump
david pecker will be back. he spoke for about 30 minutes or so in testimony yesterday after those opening statements. anything that stuck out to you and just how important is he to this case? >> david pecker may in fact be the people's star witness and not michael cohen. david pecker may ultimately be a better witness for a few different reasons. number one, he has some baggage, but he doesn't have the baggage of a michael cohen. number two, he's going to lay the foundation of this...
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so phil, david pecker back on the stand right now. being questioned about michael cohen, as we said, after a major clash over donald trump's gag order. how is this all sitting with the trump campaign? how does this affect their ability to raise money? they're behind on the money raising, and to get him out on the trail? >> well, andrea, the campaign is in that courtroom for donald trump, and you know, one of the arguments that his defense attorneys made in court this morning is that he's not violating this gag order according to them when he comments on the trial on social media, but that's rather part of his campaign that when he makes comments about this case, about the judge, about jurors, et cetera, that's part of his campaign activity in the 2024 race. and so obviously, trump is going to be there in court for the next several weeks. that's where the campaign for him is taking place. and he seems to be leaning into this strategy of portraying himself as unfairly persecuted as a way to raise more money from his supporters and grow
so phil, david pecker back on the stand right now. being questioned about michael cohen, as we said, after a major clash over donald trump's gag order. how is this all sitting with the trump campaign? how does this affect their ability to raise money? they're behind on the money raising, and to get him out on the trail? >> well, andrea, the campaign is in that courtroom for donald trump, and you know, one of the arguments that his defense attorneys made in court this morning is that he's...
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and david pecker. so we'll see if we could see a second witness begin to take the stand even tomorrow afternoon, even better. >> one of the questions one of the first questions they asked for comments was so ami isn't a charity organization, is you're making a profit off of all of this really making him seem like this is about greed and that's all to get the jury thinking that they don't like this person. >> yeah. important point. it was interesting. i thought that kaitlyn that david pecker testified about a call with two top white house staffers at the time who picks and sarah huckabee sanders would that reveal as someone who covered the white house and remembers sarah sanders being at the white house briefing room where obviously all three of us have sat at one point, she had to deny allegations about karen mcdougal citing conversations that she had with donald trump to hear that review still today that there was a call with the national enquirer tabloid king, hope hicks and sarah sanders while they
and david pecker. so we'll see if we could see a second witness begin to take the stand even tomorrow afternoon, even better. >> one of the questions one of the first questions they asked for comments was so ami isn't a charity organization, is you're making a profit off of all of this really making him seem like this is about greed and that's all to get the jury thinking that they don't like this person. >> yeah. important point. it was interesting. i thought that kaitlyn that...
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and the stories david pecker were telling. we're not stories about a likable person. >> how does david pecker come off on the stand to the jury? do you think i mean, what does he is dreaming? >> usually cheerful and chipper through this process, like he laughs sometimes very loudly, which good for him? like he's not the one on trial but it is his longtime friend. you know, they've been friends for decades. he he concedes very cheerfully, again, that trump was very good for his business. >> he committed i needed trump to sell magazines and that's part of why he made this deal with trump during the 2016 campaign. >> i keep obsessing of what must be going through down from his mind, sitting there behind this defense desk watching his former sort of friend, who is a keeper of probably a lot more secrets about him, then he has lead on what must be going through donald trump's mind. i mean, nothing is is when donald trump became president. >> i mean, this was someone who had a lot of dirt on donald trump and knew a lot about him and
and the stories david pecker were telling. we're not stories about a likable person. >> how does david pecker come off on the stand to the jury? do you think i mean, what does he is dreaming? >> usually cheerful and chipper through this process, like he laughs sometimes very loudly, which good for him? like he's not the one on trial but it is his longtime friend. you know, they've been friends for decades. he he concedes very cheerfully, again, that trump was very good for his...
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and that story is david pecker were telling. we're not stories about a likable person. >> how does david pecker come off on the stand to the jury? do you think i mean, what does he is draining? usually cheerful and chipper through this process. >> like laughs, sometimes very loudly, which good for him, like he's not the one on trial. >> but it is his longtime friend. >> they've been friends for decades. he he concedes very cheerfully, again that trump was very good for his business. >> he he admitted i needed trump to sell magazines. >> and that's part of why he made this deal with trump during the 2016 campaign. >> i keep obsessing of what must be going through down from his mind, sitting there behind this defense desk watching his former sort of friend, who is a keeper of probably a lot more secrets about him then he has lead on what must be going through don trump's mind. i mean, nothing is is when donald trump became president, i mean, this was someone who had a lot of dirt on donald trump and knew a lot about him and had a
and that story is david pecker were telling. we're not stories about a likable person. >> how does david pecker come off on the stand to the jury? do you think i mean, what does he is draining? usually cheerful and chipper through this process. >> like laughs, sometimes very loudly, which good for him, like he's not the one on trial. >> but it is his longtime friend. >> they've been friends for decades. he he concedes very cheerfully, again that trump was very good for...
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but david pecker walks in and he says that donald trump tells a joke, hey, this is david pecker. he's the chairman of the national enquirer, and he probably knows more than all of you in here. what got the laugh was then pecker said the other gentlemen, other and they didn't find it funny that nobody but trump's, but trump from smiled and the jurors and the court, those are in the court and the courtroom, how to laugh as well. so it was a funny moment. it was really the only time today that donald trump actually reacted to the testimony. i think we've seen throughout pecker's testimony, he really has tried not to react. >> he has been very controlled if he's not allegedly nodding off. >> yes. >> that's what that's what here. but i'll also say what came out today, which was important is not just that this was done allegedly for other people, but that there was a relationship with the enquirer, david pecker is about far back as 1990 h's. we'll call it fixing these stories far before for donald trump was the political icon. so there's, there's a history here. but to be clear, just b
but david pecker walks in and he says that donald trump tells a joke, hey, this is david pecker. he's the chairman of the national enquirer, and he probably knows more than all of you in here. what got the laugh was then pecker said the other gentlemen, other and they didn't find it funny that nobody but trump's, but trump from smiled and the jurors and the court, those are in the court and the courtroom, how to laugh as well. so it was a funny moment. it was really the only time today that...
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. >> david pecker. the first witness in the new york case. >> all right, good morning, everybody. welcome to "morning joe." it's wednesday, april 24th. along with willie and me we have a member of the "the new york times" editorial board maya and sam stein. our top story has to do with pecker. >> i think you're enjoying saying his name. testimony in donald trump's hush money criminal trial is scheduled to resume tomorrow after several key developments in court yesterday. first, the judge held a hearing at the start of tuesday's proceedings on whether the former president had violated his gag order. prosecutors have asked the judge to fine him $1,000 for each violation. trump's attorney said he hasn't violated the order. he was, quote, being careful about complying with the order. but the judge expressed extreme frustration with that argument, telling his attorney saying, quote, losing all credibility with the court. any violation of the gag order in articles he repost to social media is unintentional. >
. >> david pecker. the first witness in the new york case. >> all right, good morning, everybody. welcome to "morning joe." it's wednesday, april 24th. along with willie and me we have a member of the "the new york times" editorial board maya and sam stein. our top story has to do with pecker. >> i think you're enjoying saying his name. testimony in donald trump's hush money criminal trial is scheduled to resume tomorrow after several key developments in...
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david pecker is another one. so you know, everything trump touches, you know, it's kind of the anti-midas touch. and we're seeing that play out in real time in the courtroom. i really do wish this american public could see it. >> i agree. it was really instructive to be there. and speaking of michael cohen, he's been on this show dozens of times, a lot, and one thing that struck me, he told me, he told this audience, he told msnbc's audience the same story for years. and now, everything he said you have david pecker today backing him up. to a point, i mean, literally, he's been telling this story consistently. and so now what's happened is he's already been backed up by david pecker who was the other person in the room making this deal who said yeah, we did do a catch and kill deal. yeah, it was about the election. michael cohen had a campaign email even though he was not on the campaign. no reason for him to have a campaign email. and david pecker said, you can release these salacious stories that would have sol
david pecker is another one. so you know, everything trump touches, you know, it's kind of the anti-midas touch. and we're seeing that play out in real time in the courtroom. i really do wish this american public could see it. >> i agree. it was really instructive to be there. and speaking of michael cohen, he's been on this show dozens of times, a lot, and one thing that struck me, he told me, he told this audience, he told msnbc's audience the same story for years. and now, everything...
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>> reporter: this is the second day for david pecker on the stand. yesterday he was only able to testify for about 30 minutes. we are about five minutes into his testimony here today with the jury back in the jury box. i can tell you that the prosecution is currently going through the early meetings of donald trump and david pecker. of course, the former publisher of "the national enquirer," who is a crucial witness to the prosecution dating back to the meeting between michael cohen and donald trump and david pecker, when they concocted the catch and kill scheme. what the prosecution is doing in real time is asking david pecker when he first met donald trump. he's now telling the story of back in the 1980s at mar-a-lago when he met mr. trump, and he pointed to defendant trump in the courtroom, and notably he said their relationship became closer in the 2000s, naming donald trump's "the apprentice," when he was on air with the popular television show, the two struck up a mutually beneficial relationship, and it was quite clear according to david pecke
>> reporter: this is the second day for david pecker on the stand. yesterday he was only able to testify for about 30 minutes. we are about five minutes into his testimony here today with the jury back in the jury box. i can tell you that the prosecution is currently going through the early meetings of donald trump and david pecker. of course, the former publisher of "the national enquirer," who is a crucial witness to the prosecution dating back to the meeting between michael...
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we're talking about david pecker. amanda has been friends with donald trump's since the 80s, sitting right across from him in in this dan, just feet away from the former president as he stares him down, giving these dirty details about this catch and kill scheme in full detail. that is what we are expecting more for up tomorrow. and that all started of course, as we've learned from the testimony in august 20 when they made that deal between trump, michael cohen, and david pecker about being eyes and the ears of a campaign and how they were going to find the stories that were negative about trump are salacious about trump, bury them and promote stories that were positive ahead of that campaign. they went into detail about that trump tower doorman who had a story about a woman who claimed that she fathered a child or he fathered a child of her and then before court wrapped up and david pecker was done for the day they got into the details of but another playboy playmate, karen mcdougal, who of course alleged affair a wi
we're talking about david pecker. amanda has been friends with donald trump's since the 80s, sitting right across from him in in this dan, just feet away from the former president as he stares him down, giving these dirty details about this catch and kill scheme in full detail. that is what we are expecting more for up tomorrow. and that all started of course, as we've learned from the testimony in august 20 when they made that deal between trump, michael cohen, and david pecker about being...
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to a friend after david pecker's testimony, as somebody who knows david pecker and donald trump. i said, it's interesting. david pecker just blew this case wide open against donald trump. yet, nothing on truth social. my friend started laughing and said, "you will never hear donald trump say anything bad about david pecker." then suggested that, you know, he knows a lot more about donald trump than donald trump would want people to know. listen to this. again, after this guy just blew open the case against him -- >> became the key witness. >> -- they asked him about david pecker. trump, "david has been very nice, very nice. he's a nice guy." rev, any theories? >> well, the theory is -- >> don't wander too far out there. >> -- whoever your friend is i think is correct. when donald trump says david has been nice, when david got on the stand and just about nailed his legal coffin in terms of this trial, it is because he knows he's been nice not to tell all the other things he may know about donald trump. >> yeah. >> if you have a guy that knows 100 things and he only testifies to te
to a friend after david pecker's testimony, as somebody who knows david pecker and donald trump. i said, it's interesting. david pecker just blew this case wide open against donald trump. yet, nothing on truth social. my friend started laughing and said, "you will never hear donald trump say anything bad about david pecker." then suggested that, you know, he knows a lot more about donald trump than donald trump would want people to know. listen to this. again, after this guy just blew...
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what we heard from david pecker was very different. although he incident get to the stormy daniels payment yet, he outlined several parts of this scheme and he said it all began when donald trump and his former lawyer co-hen requested a meeting in august of 2015 and asked david pecker how can you help the campaign. so that for the prosecution really establishes the intent there, that this whole alleged catch and kim scheme was to benefit donald trump's campaign and david pecker outlined how he not only published negative, unfamiliaritiering stories to be mr. trump's opponents, they also detailed how they captured and killed some of the negative stories about mr. trump himself. one from a doorman with a false story about a love child. another from the former playboy model karen mcdougal about an alearned affair that donald trump denies. he's laid a lot of ground wo for the jury. christian: let's bring in a republican conservative and talk show host at all american radio. thank you for being with us, jennifer. what do you make of what yo
what we heard from david pecker was very different. although he incident get to the stormy daniels payment yet, he outlined several parts of this scheme and he said it all began when donald trump and his former lawyer co-hen requested a meeting in august of 2015 and asked david pecker how can you help the campaign. so that for the prosecution really establishes the intent there, that this whole alleged catch and kim scheme was to benefit donald trump's campaign and david pecker outlined how he...
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, just your thoughts on the importance of david pecker. based on your reporting, how much will pecker be able to contribute to the inner workings of the trump campaign, certainly the trump mindset at those just final weeks before the election? >> well, i think two things. pecker certainly establishes for the jurors sort of the things they were doing with stormy daniels was not something they invented, catch and kill, a tabloid would pay for a salacious story and not one it. that is something that had been going on for a long time. they had done it for trump before. certainly was a big part of his business model at the "national enquirer." he'll establish that and lay out for people what the m.o. was and the intention was. that gives you a sense of the cover up that was going on. the other thing that's important is he's not michael cohen. michael cohen will be able to bring the jurors inside the discussions of the trump organization. he has his own credibility problems. he went to jail for lying. i think in this case to have somebody else c
, just your thoughts on the importance of david pecker. based on your reporting, how much will pecker be able to contribute to the inner workings of the trump campaign, certainly the trump mindset at those just final weeks before the election? >> well, i think two things. pecker certainly establishes for the jurors sort of the things they were doing with stormy daniels was not something they invented, catch and kill, a tabloid would pay for a salacious story and not one it. that is...
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for it, but i think it was both for david pecker. i think he was an associate and business person for with donald trump for a very long period of time and then came this crucial critical meeting in 2015, where they formulated this conspiracy to illegally or unlawfully allegedly us what the prosecution is going to say interfere with the election and it was all about the election at that point. and we know because one of the things he said was with the doorman that was not that we were not able to confirm that story. in fact, we debunked it, but had it been real, we would have released it after the election. it was very clear that what they were doing was about the election. and at that point when you're paying, wasn't to protect melania trump. it was about the right if it was then he wouldn't have released it after the election. he was doing these caching kills fine. but when it was about the election, those aren't when you're paying people. it's an in-kind donations and you have to declare that at a dangerous point there and asked hi
for it, but i think it was both for david pecker. i think he was an associate and business person for with donald trump for a very long period of time and then came this crucial critical meeting in 2015, where they formulated this conspiracy to illegally or unlawfully allegedly us what the prosecution is going to say interfere with the election and it was all about the election at that point. and we know because one of the things he said was with the doorman that was not that we were not able...
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david pecker doesn't even know. and his "effexor" and we don't know how much of what he was saying was pecker was b.s. and not rub it on and what donald trump wanted. i think when cohan takes the stand and is cross-examined i think you will see in this it will be at the end of the day michael cohen's word to others versus the former president's. >> john: we have a couple of producers in the courtroom today funneling notes to us so i thought it would be worthwhile hearing one of the latest notes about david pecker's testimony because it's very interesting about a meeting he had with trump at trump tower. the email reads as follows pecker heard a call that trump went for a meeting at trump tower. he'd never seen security like that in his life. jared kushner tapped him on the shoulder and took him upstairs to the 24th floor and walked to trump's office and this time trump was president-elect in 17. pecker entered a waiting room and keith schiller, you are member he was there sort of the head of presidential security on
david pecker doesn't even know. and his "effexor" and we don't know how much of what he was saying was pecker was b.s. and not rub it on and what donald trump wanted. i think when cohan takes the stand and is cross-examined i think you will see in this it will be at the end of the day michael cohen's word to others versus the former president's. >> john: we have a couple of producers in the courtroom today funneling notes to us so i thought it would be worthwhile hearing one of...