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>> david pecker? >> yeah. >> i felt there were some partings of what he was saying were credible, but he was definitely more inclined to help the former president. >> definitely sounded pro trump throughout his entire thing. >> what was it he said or what was it about his demeanor, hope, that made you think he wanted to help donald trump? >> throughout his entire interview basically, he was talking a lot about, oh, yes, they were, we were referring to the boss, mr. trump. and lots of pro trump language throughout his entire argument. and social studies class, we learn a lot about bias and bias in the media and bias in all different sorts of stories. so it was very interesting to hear how someone actually in court was showing the same bias that we've seen in the media sometimes. >> testimony, also -- >> go ahead, owen. sorry. >> okay. his testimony also reflected how crucial this whole case michael cohen is and will be when he takes the stand in a few weeks. >> i have to ask you both very quickly, what
>> david pecker? >> yeah. >> i felt there were some partings of what he was saying were credible, but he was definitely more inclined to help the former president. >> definitely sounded pro trump throughout his entire thing. >> what was it he said or what was it about his demeanor, hope, that made you think he wanted to help donald trump? >> throughout his entire interview basically, he was talking a lot about, oh, yes, they were, we were referring to the...
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david pecker said, yes, it was later david pecker testified, we didn't want the story to embarrass mr. trump or embarrassed or hurt that campaign prosecutors are going to say, look, the motive was campaign donald trump's team is going to say well, there was also a personal motive here for donald trump's. so look for that on cross now eventually they enter into a contract with karen mcdougal, ami, david pecker enters into a contract that donald trump himself was not part of. and david pecker said the purpose of that agreement was to disguise the true nature of the contract. they didn't want the public learning about karen mcdougal's allegations. now that brings us to sort of between chapter two and chapter three. the big thing that happens is the access hollywood tape came out and the jury's not seeing that tape, but they've learned about it. this is where donald trump gets caught on camera talking about, you can grab them by the blank, et cetera. we remember that tape and pecker said, when that takes it came out, it was very embarrassing, very damaging. again, to the campaign importan
david pecker said, yes, it was later david pecker testified, we didn't want the story to embarrass mr. trump or embarrassed or hurt that campaign prosecutors are going to say, look, the motive was campaign donald trump's team is going to say well, there was also a personal motive here for donald trump's. so look for that on cross now eventually they enter into a contract with karen mcdougal, ami, david pecker enters into a contract that donald trump himself was not part of. and david pecker...
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they're making the connection the david pecker and donald trump were friends david pecker, one point said, the defense attorneys are making the argument. yes. no, no, no, no. the prosecutor prosecutes because they wanted to say david pecker wouldn't be doing this to hurt donald trump. he liked it and he said at one point, i felt that donald trump was my mentor. he helped me throughout my career. i still consider them close even though we haven't spoken. i still consider him a friend. so trump's attorney or the defense attorney, emile bove, is asking you a series of questions since right now, if david pecker, the witness, about how prosecutors in fact prepared pecker to give, quote, consistent testimony. >> every time he's testified, david chatterley and some very interesting testimony not long ago this afternoon, we're david pecker recalled a phone conversation. he had with trump's white house team at the time according to mr. packer, hope hicks, and sarah huckabee sanders sara was the communications director or the press secretary, and hope x was a special assistant to the president
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david pecker is a narrator for this case. and he's laying out the scheme, the multiple times that they killed any bad evidence against donald trump, and that they promoted bad evidence against his opponents. so you have this, you know, like you're building a house and now you have the framework. then you get to michael cohen, and it's already been built up, so he sounds sensible and okay. and then you have the documents. and you can't rebut the documents. donald trump signed those checks. you have the tape recordings. donald trump said, oh, yeah, i know, let's just use cash. no, no, no. so i think the defense really has its work cut out for it. one of the senior people on the watergate case, one said, you know, there are some cases that no one can win. there are some cases where you have to pound the table with the facts because you have the facts. some where you have the law, you emphasize the law, and some where you don't have anything. and even clarence darryl couldn't win the case. so i don't think blanch is clarence daro
david pecker is a narrator for this case. and he's laying out the scheme, the multiple times that they killed any bad evidence against donald trump, and that they promoted bad evidence against his opponents. so you have this, you know, like you're building a house and now you have the framework. then you get to michael cohen, and it's already been built up, so he sounds sensible and okay. and then you have the documents. and you can't rebut the documents. donald trump signed those checks. you...
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and then donald trump and david pecker. talking about our girl karen. >> our girl karen and the way he says our girl karen speaks to the idea that he has actually has a relationship with her and this is an alleged ten-month relationship and i did think it was -- you know, and the david pecker stories of new york of old, right. like i mean, ron emanuel and ron perelman. i mean these are people, these are new york people. he sort of served as a kind of press secretary for new york people and he would somehow pump these gossipy tabloid stories into the magazine. what i think is the most interesting is that we saw they had -- they showed some of the stories that the "national enquirer" ran against ted cruz and marco rubio and they were so crazy. >> crazy. >> a lot of them based on almost nothing, right, like the ted cruz -- that dad was somehow a killer. i mean the zodiac killer. completely crazy. what's so like almost tragic to me is ted cruz is now so on team trump -- >> so is rubio. >> right. neither have said anything about
and then donald trump and david pecker. talking about our girl karen. >> our girl karen and the way he says our girl karen speaks to the idea that he has actually has a relationship with her and this is an alleged ten-month relationship and i did think it was -- you know, and the david pecker stories of new york of old, right. like i mean, ron emanuel and ron perelman. i mean these are people, these are new york people. he sort of served as a kind of press secretary for new york people...
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david pecker says yes. steinglass says, did he ever say he was concerned about melania or how ivanka might feel. pecker says no, he invited me to the inauguration and he was going to get a cell phone number. that never transpired. pecker says he did not go to the inauguration and he asked his wife, and she said she didn't want to go either, so they didn't go. this is pecker saying this was -- part of the defense argument has been this is about protecting melania. he didn't want to embarrass me -- melania. and pecker said it was more about the campaign. >> it's on two levels. legally it's important. to have the campaign finance why it's a felony, this is so called john edwards defense, i did this for my family, not the campaign. the principal with the agreement with the other principal, david becker, donald trump. to have him say this was about the campaign, not his personal family goes directly to the legal theory. on the emotional side, just imagine you're a juror, you're in court, donald trump is sitting
david pecker says yes. steinglass says, did he ever say he was concerned about melania or how ivanka might feel. pecker says no, he invited me to the inauguration and he was going to get a cell phone number. that never transpired. pecker says he did not go to the inauguration and he asked his wife, and she said she didn't want to go either, so they didn't go. this is pecker saying this was -- part of the defense argument has been this is about protecting melania. he didn't want to embarrass me...
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with david pecker for this favorable treatment? >> i think in most campaigns you don't see that it may be the case that a newspaper or media outlet will endorse a particular candidate. but i don't think we've ever seen a situation where a particular candidate goes to the outlet and negotiates with them for favorable treatment of his campaign and unfavorable treatment of his opponents. so that's unusual and the way the prosecution has framed yet this is essentially a psap to the trump campaign as though it were a contribution in kight. and i think that's a theory of the case, whether or not the jurors by this as a contribution, i think is a different story, but that seems to be where the prosecution is taking that this is a coordinated effort. it is unusual and extraordinary and it essentially amounts to the kinds of influence peddling that we typically don't see between the media and a campaign. >> but the money is the core of it, isn't it? i mean, the fact that yeah. i mean, that's just to me the strongest ground that the prosecut
with david pecker for this favorable treatment? >> i think in most campaigns you don't see that it may be the case that a newspaper or media outlet will endorse a particular candidate. but i don't think we've ever seen a situation where a particular candidate goes to the outlet and negotiates with them for favorable treatment of his campaign and unfavorable treatment of his opponents. so that's unusual and the way the prosecution has framed yet this is essentially a psap to the trump...
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and david pecker is testimony. i think it will come out later on thursday, but the idea that donald trump had to gross up michael cohen in order to make him whole for the payments because he is actually bursting him for what was being classified as payments for legal services, even though there had been no legal services rendered. so that's the given multi here. and i think what the prosecution is trying to show and there's a lot of discussion of donald trump's hands and all of this is that he's very much a micro manager. he is taking really close looks at what the money is, where the money is going to whom it is going and this is just david pecker and michael cohen doing his bidding, but he is the mastermind, essentially the puppet master, and they are simply the puppets jeff, the prosecutor questioning david pecker, noted today in court that the one in the election statutes, the case is based on does have a conspiracy provision. >> what does that say to you about the way that the prosecution is trying to frame we
and david pecker is testimony. i think it will come out later on thursday, but the idea that donald trump had to gross up michael cohen in order to make him whole for the payments because he is actually bursting him for what was being classified as payments for legal services, even though there had been no legal services rendered. so that's the given multi here. and i think what the prosecution is trying to show and there's a lot of discussion of donald trump's hands and all of this is that...
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he escorts david pecker up to trump's office. he walks in and he sees this incredible assembly of men, like -- >> james comey. >> james comey, like the head of the fbi was there, reince priebus, this group of people. they're talking about government business. and donald trump introduces david pecker to the room and he says, he knows more than anybody in this room. and it was a joke, as david pecker pointed out. nobody laughed. >> especially comey. he's probably like, how is this my life? >> then, just to show you how obsessed he was with karen mcdougal, he calls -- so "national enquirer" is standing there, and he calls him over to the side, and he says how is our girl doing? >> there seemed to be a real obsession that donald trump had with karen mcdougal. >> he seemed to have brought her up and followed up and said how is our girl? he was interested enough or hoar may have been interested in asking a way, hey, she's still quiet, isn't she? >> at the white house where he goes to the white house for his dinner, and donald trump and
he escorts david pecker up to trump's office. he walks in and he sees this incredible assembly of men, like -- >> james comey. >> james comey, like the head of the fbi was there, reince priebus, this group of people. they're talking about government business. and donald trump introduces david pecker to the room and he says, he knows more than anybody in this room. and it was a joke, as david pecker pointed out. nobody laughed. >> especially comey. he's probably like, how is...
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that's why david pecker, zero to sort of bolster him up. but that doesn't give donald trump the right to do what he is doing with that gag order, fight it out in the courtroom. let your tuner attorneys do their job, miss the were you surprised, judge merchan hasn't rendered an immediate decision on the gag order violations. yeah. >> i wasn't surprised because he's got to go through each individual instance, the prosecution is alleging and make a determination about whether or not that violates at an also think about what's the penalty going to be to send a message but not go too far. so i think we're having decision was what i would've expected. >> all right. misty marris, jeremy saland. thank you. so both you pecker described the tactics of quote, checkbook journalism and catch and kill. just how often that's used and why it's so specific to this case, that's next what is it about the titanic? >> why are we so obsessed with this ship every piece of evidence tells a story 50 years later? it's still leading people to her death. >> this speci
that's why david pecker, zero to sort of bolster him up. but that doesn't give donald trump the right to do what he is doing with that gag order, fight it out in the courtroom. let your tuner attorneys do their job, miss the were you surprised, judge merchan hasn't rendered an immediate decision on the gag order violations. yeah. >> i wasn't surprised because he's got to go through each individual instance, the prosecution is alleging and make a determination about whether or not that...
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he watched david pecker walk into the courtroom, he watched david pecker in the witness box, that's what we're hearing from inside the courtroom today, very similarly. the other thing i noticed about trump yesterday is he kept looking at the jury. when they came in and out, which happens several times during any court session, he followed them very closely as they walked in and out of the jury box, looked at them in the jury box. not clear whether he's simply look for some sort of indication of how they're leaning or perhaps trying to intimidate a little bit, but had his eyes very focused on them in addition to pecker yesterday, i assume that will go on throughout the trial. >> david axelrod writes that trump is a man who is bred to believe the rules don't apply to him and presents himself as peerless and left to sit silently by edict of the court as a jury of his peers decides his fate. look, rachel maddow said this yesterday on our air, none of us are body language experts. if you believe that is something that can be sort of read with certainty, but anyone, anyone on trial for a crime
he watched david pecker walk into the courtroom, he watched david pecker in the witness box, that's what we're hearing from inside the courtroom today, very similarly. the other thing i noticed about trump yesterday is he kept looking at the jury. when they came in and out, which happens several times during any court session, he followed them very closely as they walked in and out of the jury box, looked at them in the jury box. not clear whether he's simply look for some sort of indication of...
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with more testimony from david pecker. joining us now is joyce vance, former u.s. attorney, mia wylie, former civil attorney in new york, and hugo, covering washington and all things donald trump. joyce, i want to start with you. we've talked often about trying cases. when you have your case in chief, that primacy is how you do this. you start and end strong when it comes to the presentation of your witnesses. was it smart for the prosecution to start with david pecker thus far? >> well, it was smart, katie, and i am reminded that it was you who first said that you thought david pecker would be a great kickoff witness. i think that's the case, right? this is someone who doesn't have the baggage of a michael cohen, and who tells the origin story. he has now walked us through the election interference conspiracy. this is now patch and kill to elect trump. that's the case that the prosecution will put on. they've done a great job of giving the jury sort of the basics, the land marks and the road map that they'll move ahead on
with more testimony from david pecker. joining us now is joyce vance, former u.s. attorney, mia wylie, former civil attorney in new york, and hugo, covering washington and all things donald trump. joyce, i want to start with you. we've talked often about trying cases. when you have your case in chief, that primacy is how you do this. you start and end strong when it comes to the presentation of your witnesses. was it smart for the prosecution to start with david pecker thus far? >> well,...
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and david, you're thoughts about what we're learning for the first time from david pecker's testimony? >> it is pretty stark. to think about practices that were in affect at the national enquirer. if you stopped someone on the street and said is the gossip tabloid going be an avatar or have secret agendas made for the stories they public or don't publish. and people thought gosh, there might be some give and take maybe there is some favoritism. but what we've learned about here is that this tabloid, that is consumed by millions of people, often on check out stands and often at home, often these days online, shared on social media, was picking and killing what stories to publish on the basis of what would help a friend ofity publisher david pecker, a friend by the name of donald trump and according to pecker's own testimony, what might embarrass his presidential came in that 2016 cycle. pecker was on board in 2016 walking through stories with michael cohen about what things they should pick to go after, hillary clinton and he had previous thought about what kind of stories earlier in t
and david, you're thoughts about what we're learning for the first time from david pecker's testimony? >> it is pretty stark. to think about practices that were in affect at the national enquirer. if you stopped someone on the street and said is the gossip tabloid going be an avatar or have secret agendas made for the stories they public or don't publish. and people thought gosh, there might be some give and take maybe there is some favoritism. but what we've learned about here is that...
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trump and david pecker the ceo of the national enquirer's, an individual named david pecker well, david, his good friends with donald trump. >> they have a friendship that goes back for many years. in fact, the national enquirer has endorsed donald trump, has said he must be president i had nothing to do with the national enquirer story. and frankly, i hope it's not true because it's pretty bad so ted cruz got one thing wrong in the extended version of those comments, which was he implied it was roger stone who is acting as the emissary with david pecker and donald trump, obviously as we now know, and we'll hear from him on the witness stand. >> it was my phil cohen who is doing all of this. >> but what ted cruz got closer to than really anyone did at that time was that relationship between the two of them and it then it was not a known entity, a known quantity like it is now, like we saw the details coming out and you saw donald trump also doing other interviews about the claim that ted cruz is father was fault with lee harvey oswald trump would go on tv and say, well, the national enq
trump and david pecker the ceo of the national enquirer's, an individual named david pecker well, david, his good friends with donald trump. >> they have a friendship that goes back for many years. in fact, the national enquirer has endorsed donald trump, has said he must be president i had nothing to do with the national enquirer story. and frankly, i hope it's not true because it's pretty bad so ted cruz got one thing wrong in the extended version of those comments, which was he implied...
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david pecker will be back. he spoke for about 30 minutes or so in testimony yesterday after those opening statements. anything that stuck out to you and just how important is he to this case? >> david pecker may in fact be the people's star witness and not michael cohen. david pecker may ultimately be a better witness for a few different reasons. number one, he has some baggage, but he doesn't have the baggage of a michael cohen. number two, he's going to lay the foundation of this pre-existing relationship and this catch and kill arrangement. and that's going to match up to a lot of documents that the state is going to introduce. number three, he was a friend of donald trump's. so his testimony may be more credible for that reason. he may be testifying about something we're not anticipating, and it might be about a direct conversation with donald trump, because, remember, that there were these entries in business records can be shown from the records with the state, with the people need to show is donald trump
david pecker will be back. he spoke for about 30 minutes or so in testimony yesterday after those opening statements. anything that stuck out to you and just how important is he to this case? >> david pecker may in fact be the people's star witness and not michael cohen. david pecker may ultimately be a better witness for a few different reasons. number one, he has some baggage, but he doesn't have the baggage of a michael cohen. number two, he's going to lay the foundation of this...
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so phil, david pecker back on the stand right now. being questioned about michael cohen, as we said, after a major clash over donald trump's gag order. how is this all sitting with the trump campaign? how does this affect their ability to raise money? they're behind on the money raising, and to get him out on the trail? >> well, andrea, the campaign is in that courtroom for donald trump, and you know, one of the arguments that his defense attorneys made in court this morning is that he's not violating this gag order according to them when he comments on the trial on social media, but that's rather part of his campaign that when he makes comments about this case, about the judge, about jurors, et cetera, that's part of his campaign activity in the 2024 race. and so obviously, trump is going to be there in court for the next several weeks. that's where the campaign for him is taking place. and he seems to be leaning into this strategy of portraying himself as unfairly persecuted as a way to raise more money from his supporters and grow
so phil, david pecker back on the stand right now. being questioned about michael cohen, as we said, after a major clash over donald trump's gag order. how is this all sitting with the trump campaign? how does this affect their ability to raise money? they're behind on the money raising, and to get him out on the trail? >> well, andrea, the campaign is in that courtroom for donald trump, and you know, one of the arguments that his defense attorneys made in court this morning is that he's...
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and david pecker. so we'll see if we could see a second witness begin to take the stand even tomorrow afternoon, even better. >> one of the questions one of the first questions they asked for comments was so ami isn't a charity organization, is you're making a profit off of all of this really making him seem like this is about greed and that's all to get the jury thinking that they don't like this person. >> yeah. important point. it was interesting. i thought that kaitlyn that david pecker testified about a call with two top white house staffers at the time who picks and sarah huckabee sanders would that reveal as someone who covered the white house and remembers sarah sanders being at the white house briefing room where obviously all three of us have sat at one point, she had to deny allegations about karen mcdougal citing conversations that she had with donald trump to hear that review still today that there was a call with the national enquirer tabloid king, hope hicks and sarah sanders while they
and david pecker. so we'll see if we could see a second witness begin to take the stand even tomorrow afternoon, even better. >> one of the questions one of the first questions they asked for comments was so ami isn't a charity organization, is you're making a profit off of all of this really making him seem like this is about greed and that's all to get the jury thinking that they don't like this person. >> yeah. important point. it was interesting. i thought that kaitlyn that...
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and the stories david pecker were telling. we're not stories about a likable person. >> how does david pecker come off on the stand to the jury? do you think i mean, what does he is dreaming? >> usually cheerful and chipper through this process, like he laughs sometimes very loudly, which good for him? like he's not the one on trial but it is his longtime friend. you know, they've been friends for decades. he he concedes very cheerfully, again, that trump was very good for his business. >> he committed i needed trump to sell magazines and that's part of why he made this deal with trump during the 2016 campaign. >> i keep obsessing of what must be going through down from his mind, sitting there behind this defense desk watching his former sort of friend, who is a keeper of probably a lot more secrets about him, then he has lead on what must be going through donald trump's mind. i mean, nothing is is when donald trump became president. >> i mean, this was someone who had a lot of dirt on donald trump and knew a lot about him and
and the stories david pecker were telling. we're not stories about a likable person. >> how does david pecker come off on the stand to the jury? do you think i mean, what does he is dreaming? >> usually cheerful and chipper through this process, like he laughs sometimes very loudly, which good for him? like he's not the one on trial but it is his longtime friend. you know, they've been friends for decades. he he concedes very cheerfully, again, that trump was very good for his...
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and that story is david pecker were telling. we're not stories about a likable person. >> how does david pecker come off on the stand to the jury? do you think i mean, what does he is draining? usually cheerful and chipper through this process. >> like laughs, sometimes very loudly, which good for him, like he's not the one on trial. >> but it is his longtime friend. >> they've been friends for decades. he he concedes very cheerfully, again that trump was very good for his business. >> he he admitted i needed trump to sell magazines. >> and that's part of why he made this deal with trump during the 2016 campaign. >> i keep obsessing of what must be going through down from his mind, sitting there behind this defense desk watching his former sort of friend, who is a keeper of probably a lot more secrets about him then he has lead on what must be going through don trump's mind. i mean, nothing is is when donald trump became president, i mean, this was someone who had a lot of dirt on donald trump and knew a lot about him and had a
and that story is david pecker were telling. we're not stories about a likable person. >> how does david pecker come off on the stand to the jury? do you think i mean, what does he is draining? usually cheerful and chipper through this process. >> like laughs, sometimes very loudly, which good for him, like he's not the one on trial. >> but it is his longtime friend. >> they've been friends for decades. he he concedes very cheerfully, again that trump was very good for...
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but david pecker walks in and he says that donald trump tells a joke, hey, this is david pecker. he's the chairman of the national enquirer, and he probably knows more than all of you in here. what got the laugh was then pecker said the other gentlemen, other and they didn't find it funny that nobody but trump's, but trump from smiled and the jurors and the court, those are in the court and the courtroom, how to laugh as well. so it was a funny moment. it was really the only time today that donald trump actually reacted to the testimony. i think we've seen throughout pecker's testimony, he really has tried not to react. >> he has been very controlled if he's not allegedly nodding off. >> yes. >> that's what that's what here. but i'll also say what came out today, which was important is not just that this was done allegedly for other people, but that there was a relationship with the enquirer, david pecker is about far back as 1990 h's. we'll call it fixing these stories far before for donald trump was the political icon. so there's, there's a history here. but to be clear, just b
but david pecker walks in and he says that donald trump tells a joke, hey, this is david pecker. he's the chairman of the national enquirer, and he probably knows more than all of you in here. what got the laugh was then pecker said the other gentlemen, other and they didn't find it funny that nobody but trump's, but trump from smiled and the jurors and the court, those are in the court and the courtroom, how to laugh as well. so it was a funny moment. it was really the only time today that...
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. >> david pecker. the first witness in the new york case. >> all right, good morning, everybody. welcome to "morning joe." it's wednesday, april 24th. along with willie and me we have a member of the "the new york times" editorial board maya and sam stein. our top story has to do with pecker. >> i think you're enjoying saying his name. testimony in donald trump's hush money criminal trial is scheduled to resume tomorrow after several key developments in court yesterday. first, the judge held a hearing at the start of tuesday's proceedings on whether the former president had violated his gag order. prosecutors have asked the judge to fine him $1,000 for each violation. trump's attorney said he hasn't violated the order. he was, quote, being careful about complying with the order. but the judge expressed extreme frustration with that argument, telling his attorney saying, quote, losing all credibility with the court. any violation of the gag order in articles he repost to social media is unintentional. >
. >> david pecker. the first witness in the new york case. >> all right, good morning, everybody. welcome to "morning joe." it's wednesday, april 24th. along with willie and me we have a member of the "the new york times" editorial board maya and sam stein. our top story has to do with pecker. >> i think you're enjoying saying his name. testimony in donald trump's hush money criminal trial is scheduled to resume tomorrow after several key developments in...
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trump. >> david pecker is a very strong witness for the prosecution. he seems very solid on the stand. he certainly seems like he doesn't have any ax to grind with donald trump and seems almost apologetic for having to tell this story. >> reporter: on the stand, pecker said trump called him about another story he wanted kept quiet. that a former "playboy" model karen mcdougal, who claimed to have had a ten month long affair with trump in 2006, which he denies. >> after we had been intimate, he tried to pin me, and i actually didn't know how to take that. >> reporter: four days before the 2016 election, "the wall street journal" reported that american media, which owned the "enquirer" at the time that had paid mcdougal $150,000 for the rights to her story, which was never published. in the gag order here, the prosecution argued trump should be held in contempt for all of his scathing commentary about this case. trump lawyer todd blanche said his client has been careful with his words. to that, the judge said, that's%
trump. >> david pecker is a very strong witness for the prosecution. he seems very solid on the stand. he certainly seems like he doesn't have any ax to grind with donald trump and seems almost apologetic for having to tell this story. >> reporter: on the stand, pecker said trump called him about another story he wanted kept quiet. that a former "playboy" model karen mcdougal, who claimed to have had a ten month long affair with trump in 2006, which he denies. >>...
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trump, what do you think of david pecker? >> reporter: pecker describing a meeting at trump tower in 2015 with mr. trump and his former fixer michael cohen, where pecker says he agreed to serve as the eyes and ears for rumors that could hurt mr. trump, adding, "what i would do is publish positive stories about trump and publish negative stories about his opponents." the prosecution then showing the jury a series of glowing headlines about then candidate trump and derogatory ones making baseless claims about mr. trump's republican opponents, including ted cruz. pecker admitting today the enquirer made up a story about cruz's father and the man who assassinated jfk. also testifying his company paid a doorman $30,000 for a completely untrue story about mr. trump fathering a child with his housekeeper so the doorman couldn't take the story elsewhere, trying to save mr. trump and the campaign the potential embarrassment. the day began with the judge taking the defense team to task over mr. trump's posts on social media targeting c
trump, what do you think of david pecker? >> reporter: pecker describing a meeting at trump tower in 2015 with mr. trump and his former fixer michael cohen, where pecker says he agreed to serve as the eyes and ears for rumors that could hurt mr. trump, adding, "what i would do is publish positive stories about trump and publish negative stories about his opponents." the prosecution then showing the jury a series of glowing headlines about then candidate trump and derogatory ones...
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david pecker is another one. so you know, everything trump touches, you know, it's kind of the anti-midas touch. and we're seeing that play out in real time in the courtroom. i really do wish this american public could see it. >> i agree. it was really instructive to be there. and speaking of michael cohen, he's been on this show dozens of times, a lot, and one thing that struck me, he told me, he told this audience, he told msnbc's audience the same story for years. and now, everything he said you have david pecker today backing him up. to a point, i mean, literally, he's been telling this story consistently. and so now what's happened is he's already been backed up by david pecker who was the other person in the room making this deal who said yeah, we did do a catch and kill deal. yeah, it was about the election. michael cohen had a campaign email even though he was not on the campaign. no reason for him to have a campaign email. and david pecker said, you can release these salacious stories that would have sol
david pecker is another one. so you know, everything trump touches, you know, it's kind of the anti-midas touch. and we're seeing that play out in real time in the courtroom. i really do wish this american public could see it. >> i agree. it was really instructive to be there. and speaking of michael cohen, he's been on this show dozens of times, a lot, and one thing that struck me, he told me, he told this audience, he told msnbc's audience the same story for years. and now, everything...
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>> reporter: this is the second day for david pecker on the stand. yesterday he was only able to testify for about 30 minutes. we are about five minutes into his testimony here today with the jury back in the jury box. i can tell you that the prosecution is currently going through the early meetings of donald trump and david pecker. of course, the former publisher of "the national enquirer," who is a crucial witness to the prosecution dating back to the meeting between michael cohen and donald trump and david pecker, when they concocted the catch and kill scheme. what the prosecution is doing in real time is asking david pecker when he first met donald trump. he's now telling the story of back in the 1980s at mar-a-lago when he met mr. trump, and he pointed to defendant trump in the courtroom, and notably he said their relationship became closer in the 2000s, naming donald trump's "the apprentice," when he was on air with the popular television show, the two struck up a mutually beneficial relationship, and it was quite clear according to david pecke
>> reporter: this is the second day for david pecker on the stand. yesterday he was only able to testify for about 30 minutes. we are about five minutes into his testimony here today with the jury back in the jury box. i can tell you that the prosecution is currently going through the early meetings of donald trump and david pecker. of course, the former publisher of "the national enquirer," who is a crucial witness to the prosecution dating back to the meeting between michael...
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we're talking about david pecker. amanda has been friends with donald trump's since the 80s, sitting right across from him in in this dan, just feet away from the former president as he stares him down, giving these dirty details about this catch and kill scheme in full detail. that is what we are expecting more for up tomorrow. and that all started of course, as we've learned from the testimony in august 20 when they made that deal between trump, michael cohen, and david pecker about being eyes and the ears of a campaign and how they were going to find the stories that were negative about trump are salacious about trump, bury them and promote stories that were positive ahead of that campaign. they went into detail about that trump tower doorman who had a story about a woman who claimed that she fathered a child or he fathered a child of her and then before court wrapped up and david pecker was done for the day they got into the details of but another playboy playmate, karen mcdougal, who of course alleged affair a wi
we're talking about david pecker. amanda has been friends with donald trump's since the 80s, sitting right across from him in in this dan, just feet away from the former president as he stares him down, giving these dirty details about this catch and kill scheme in full detail. that is what we are expecting more for up tomorrow. and that all started of course, as we've learned from the testimony in august 20 when they made that deal between trump, michael cohen, and david pecker about being...
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to a friend after david pecker's testimony, as somebody who knows david pecker and donald trump. i said, it's interesting. david pecker just blew this case wide open against donald trump. yet, nothing on truth social. my friend started laughing and said, "you will never hear donald trump say anything bad about david pecker." then suggested that, you know, he knows a lot more about donald trump than donald trump would want people to know. listen to this. again, after this guy just blew open the case against him -- >> became the key witness. >> -- they asked him about david pecker. trump, "david has been very nice, very nice. he's a nice guy." rev, any theories? >> well, the theory is -- >> don't wander too far out there. >> -- whoever your friend is i think is correct. when donald trump says david has been nice, when david got on the stand and just about nailed his legal coffin in terms of this trial, it is because he knows he's been nice not to tell all the other things he may know about donald trump. >> yeah. >> if you have a guy that knows 100 things and he only testifies to te
to a friend after david pecker's testimony, as somebody who knows david pecker and donald trump. i said, it's interesting. david pecker just blew this case wide open against donald trump. yet, nothing on truth social. my friend started laughing and said, "you will never hear donald trump say anything bad about david pecker." then suggested that, you know, he knows a lot more about donald trump than donald trump would want people to know. listen to this. again, after this guy just blew...
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what we heard from david pecker was very different. although he incident get to the stormy daniels payment yet, he outlined several parts of this scheme and he said it all began when donald trump and his former lawyer co-hen requested a meeting in august of 2015 and asked david pecker how can you help the campaign. so that for the prosecution really establishes the intent there, that this whole alleged catch and kim scheme was to benefit donald trump's campaign and david pecker outlined how he not only published negative, unfamiliaritiering stories to be mr. trump's opponents, they also detailed how they captured and killed some of the negative stories about mr. trump himself. one from a doorman with a false story about a love child. another from the former playboy model karen mcdougal about an alearned affair that donald trump denies. he's laid a lot of ground wo for the jury. christian: let's bring in a republican conservative and talk show host at all american radio. thank you for being with us, jennifer. what do you make of what yo
what we heard from david pecker was very different. although he incident get to the stormy daniels payment yet, he outlined several parts of this scheme and he said it all began when donald trump and his former lawyer co-hen requested a meeting in august of 2015 and asked david pecker how can you help the campaign. so that for the prosecution really establishes the intent there, that this whole alleged catch and kim scheme was to benefit donald trump's campaign and david pecker outlined how he...
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, just your thoughts on the importance of david pecker. based on your reporting, how much will pecker be able to contribute to the inner workings of the trump campaign, certainly the trump mindset at those just final weeks before the election? >> well, i think two things. pecker certainly establishes for the jurors sort of the things they were doing with stormy daniels was not something they invented, catch and kill, a tabloid would pay for a salacious story and not one it. that is something that had been going on for a long time. they had done it for trump before. certainly was a big part of his business model at the "national enquirer." he'll establish that and lay out for people what the m.o. was and the intention was. that gives you a sense of the cover up that was going on. the other thing that's important is he's not michael cohen. michael cohen will be able to bring the jurors inside the discussions of the trump organization. he has his own credibility problems. he went to jail for lying. i think in this case to have somebody else c
, just your thoughts on the importance of david pecker. based on your reporting, how much will pecker be able to contribute to the inner workings of the trump campaign, certainly the trump mindset at those just final weeks before the election? >> well, i think two things. pecker certainly establishes for the jurors sort of the things they were doing with stormy daniels was not something they invented, catch and kill, a tabloid would pay for a salacious story and not one it. that is...
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where michael cohen and trump and david pecker had this agreement where david pecker would be the eyes and ears of the campaign and look out for those negative stories. give cohen a heads up and try to suppress it. so it's important he is the lead off witness because it sets the stage. he's the one, of course he was in charge of at the head of ami, in charge of the national enquirer. it sets the stage and just sort of provides for the jury. it started as soon as donald trump announced he was running for president. >> charles, does it matter that they were long time friends, associates, people who worked together for a long time? does that give him more credibility? >> i think it does. the prosecutors are going to tie that into their narrative around why you should believe him and why he's credible. i think when you're setting the stage, giving a jury a very clear picture around what's happening, you have to give to the jury a reason why you should be believing these witnesses and their testimony. so for the reasons you've just mentioned, i think that pecker is going to be a very import
where michael cohen and trump and david pecker had this agreement where david pecker would be the eyes and ears of the campaign and look out for those negative stories. give cohen a heads up and try to suppress it. so it's important he is the lead off witness because it sets the stage. he's the one, of course he was in charge of at the head of ami, in charge of the national enquirer. it sets the stage and just sort of provides for the jury. it started as soon as donald trump announced he was...
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for it, but i think it was both for david pecker. i think he was an associate and business person for with donald trump for a very long period of time and then came this crucial critical meeting in 2015, where they formulated this conspiracy to illegally or unlawfully allegedly us what the prosecution is going to say interfere with the election and it was all about the election at that point. and we know because one of the things he said was with the doorman that was not that we were not able to confirm that story. in fact, we debunked it, but had it been real, we would have released it after the election. it was very clear that what they were doing was about the election. and at that point when you're paying, wasn't to protect melania trump. it was about the right if it was then he wouldn't have released it after the election. he was doing these caching kills fine. but when it was about the election, those aren't when you're paying people. it's an in-kind donations and you have to declare that at a dangerous point there and asked hi
for it, but i think it was both for david pecker. i think he was an associate and business person for with donald trump for a very long period of time and then came this crucial critical meeting in 2015, where they formulated this conspiracy to illegally or unlawfully allegedly us what the prosecution is going to say interfere with the election and it was all about the election at that point. and we know because one of the things he said was with the doorman that was not that we were not able...
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let's start now with the testimony of david pecker. of course, explain why prosecutors called him as their first went. sure. and there's no science briana as to why you'd ever put a witness on you want someone who's palling and got something to say and david pecker is exactly that in this case, he's a former publisher of the national enquirer and was said to be in acknowledged being involved in an effort to stop this embarrassing conduct about foreign president trump from getting public ahead of the 2016 election. now there's a long history of the national enquirer number one, pushing out stories that were very favorable to the former president and very critical of his opponents. and that's ted cruz there, senator from texas. he was running against at the time a number of critical articles of hillary clinton senator at the first lady as well and so that's sort of the national enquirer's role in all of this. and david pecker had a hand in it explain why he's crucial enough that they're calling him considering there is a risk here, which
let's start now with the testimony of david pecker. of course, explain why prosecutors called him as their first went. sure. and there's no science briana as to why you'd ever put a witness on you want someone who's palling and got something to say and david pecker is exactly that in this case, he's a former publisher of the national enquirer and was said to be in acknowledged being involved in an effort to stop this embarrassing conduct about foreign president trump from getting public ahead...
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david pecker doesn't even know. and his "effexor" and we don't know how much of what he was saying was pecker was b.s. and not rub it on and what donald trump wanted. i think when cohan takes the stand and is cross-examined i think you will see in this it will be at the end of the day michael cohen's word to others versus the former president's. >> john: we have a couple of producers in the courtroom today funneling notes to us so i thought it would be worthwhile hearing one of the latest notes about david pecker's testimony because it's very interesting about a meeting he had with trump at trump tower. the email reads as follows pecker heard a call that trump went for a meeting at trump tower. he'd never seen security like that in his life. jared kushner tapped him on the shoulder and took him upstairs to the 24th floor and walked to trump's office and this time trump was president-elect in 17. pecker entered a waiting room and keith schiller, you are member he was there sort of the head of presidential security on
david pecker doesn't even know. and his "effexor" and we don't know how much of what he was saying was pecker was b.s. and not rub it on and what donald trump wanted. i think when cohan takes the stand and is cross-examined i think you will see in this it will be at the end of the day michael cohen's word to others versus the former president's. >> john: we have a couple of producers in the courtroom today funneling notes to us so i thought it would be worthwhile hearing one of...
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david pecker. to vaughn's point about unspoken, unknown details, according to prosecutes today, it was trump who invited david pecker to come to this meeting at trump tower in 2015. they were joined by michael cohen there. when we've seen that meeting described and public filings, it comes across really differently. they say there was a meeting between cohen and pecker and a third member of the trump campaign. we know from our colleague tom winters reporting in 2018 -- >> do we have that? okay. we're, we went back and we found, it actually circulated on social media. tom winter is a pro's pro and probably the kind of reporter that lives in both worlds. that does talk to those kinds of sources that know where people move and with whom they move. let me show you that report about that meeting and who was in it. >> the first discussion of this so-called catch and kill come up in august 2015. so the "wall street journal" reported back in november and nbc news has now confirmed that in fact the other ca
david pecker. to vaughn's point about unspoken, unknown details, according to prosecutes today, it was trump who invited david pecker to come to this meeting at trump tower in 2015. they were joined by michael cohen there. when we've seen that meeting described and public filings, it comes across really differently. they say there was a meeting between cohen and pecker and a third member of the trump campaign. we know from our colleague tom winters reporting in 2018 -- >> do we have that?...
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then prosecutors calling the first witness, david pecker, to the stand. the former publisher of the national inquirer, who was part of a scheme prosecutors say called catch and kill. abc's senior investigative correspondent aaron katersky leading us off from the courthouse again tonight. >> reporter: donald trump walking into the manhattan courtroom where today for the first time in history a jury heard testimony in a criminal case against a former american president. >> it's a very, very sad day in america. i can tell you that. >> reporter: with trump slouching in his seat and sometimes closing his eyes, prosecutor matthew colangelo began his opening statement charging trump "orchestrated a criminal scheme to corrupt the 2016 presidential election." taking notes, as the prosecutor laid out his case, accusing trump of falsifying business records to disguise a $130,000 hush payment to porn star stormy daniels days before the election, so voters wouldn't find out about her claim of an affair. at the time, trump was under pressure. news had just broken of th
then prosecutors calling the first witness, david pecker, to the stand. the former publisher of the national inquirer, who was part of a scheme prosecutors say called catch and kill. abc's senior investigative correspondent aaron katersky leading us off from the courthouse again tonight. >> reporter: donald trump walking into the manhattan courtroom where today for the first time in history a jury heard testimony in a criminal case against a former american president. >> it's a...
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warmer "national enquirer" publisher david pecker. >> he's been very nice. i mean, david has been very nice. he's a nice guy. >> reporter: trump has known to be 21 for decades and oscars allege the pair along with former trump lawyer michael cohen engage in a conspiracy to suppress negative stories about trump as he ran for president in 2016. pecker told jurors just after the "access hollywood" tapes surface just late wow weeks before the election. >> just start kissing them. >> reporter: discussions of what to do with stormy daniels heated up. the adult form star was according to pecker shot him a story of her alleged affair wit. pecker testified he did not have the money so it told cohen to buy and burying the story. of the story gets out the boss is going to be very angry with you. >> the d.a.s case really rises and falls with david pecker's testimony because he is the linchpin behind the sort of conspiratorial theme to influence the election. >> reporter: pecker also testified about an agreement with former "playboy" model karen mcdougal, who says she ha
warmer "national enquirer" publisher david pecker. >> he's been very nice. i mean, david has been very nice. he's a nice guy. >> reporter: trump has known to be 21 for decades and oscars allege the pair along with former trump lawyer michael cohen engage in a conspiracy to suppress negative stories about trump as he ran for president in 2016. pecker told jurors just after the "access hollywood" tapes surface just late wow weeks before the election. >> just...
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i think david pecker is ke to the put forward? i think david pecker is key to the idea _ put forward? i think david pecker is key to the idea of _ put forward? i think david pecker is key to the idea of intent _ put forward? i think david pecker is key to the idea of intent here. - key to the idea of intent here. donald trumps the team has said in their opening statements that donald trump didn't pay the hush money payments to stormy daniels because of the election it was all about protecting his and his brand. what we heard from david pecker is very different. although he didn't get to the stormy daniels payment he outlined several part of this catch and kill scheme. he said it all began when donald trump at his former lawyer michael cohen requested a meeting in august of 2015 and asked david pecker, how can you help the campaign for the bat for the prosecution really establishes intent that the soul of the alleged catch and kill scheme was to benefit donald trumps campaign for that and david pecker outlined how we not only publi
i think david pecker is ke to the put forward? i think david pecker is key to the idea _ put forward? i think david pecker is key to the idea of _ put forward? i think david pecker is key to the idea of intent _ put forward? i think david pecker is key to the idea of intent here. - key to the idea of intent here. donald trumps the team has said in their opening statements that donald trump didn't pay the hush money payments to stormy daniels because of the election it was all about protecting...
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>> of david pecker? >> yeah. >> i think they're going to do everything they can to showhe hs a liar, what he's saying is not only ill-informed but he's doing it because he got a non pros cushion agreement. theno u.s. attorney's office ha forced a his hand, forced him there today, and he's trying to cover his bases by lying. poke holes in the case one witness at a time, and that's what they're going to be doing with david pecker probably starting tomorrow or the day after. >> well, we shall see. listen, we may know this story quite nowell, at least the broa contours of atit, but when it comes down to the actual trial, there is so much to dig into. thank you so much for your time tonight. duncan, i think we have lassoed you inav for one more block, so please stay right there. coming up at long last congress votes to send aid toon ukraine. but don't ask anyone in the republican party if this means the debate is settled. and coming up as we await judge merchan's ruling on the gag order prosecutors are sugges
>> of david pecker? >> yeah. >> i think they're going to do everything they can to showhe hs a liar, what he's saying is not only ill-informed but he's doing it because he got a non pros cushion agreement. theno u.s. attorney's office ha forced a his hand, forced him there today, and he's trying to cover his bases by lying. poke holes in the case one witness at a time, and that's what they're going to be doing with david pecker probably starting tomorrow or the day after....
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this is conspiracy between david pecker, donald trump, and michael cohen. and that they all got together conspiracy requires two or more people to get together, have an agreement and the agreement is to do something unlawful. and what they're saying is what they were doing that was unlawful, was they were unlawfully trying to influence the election. so this is all part of the scheme. the criminal scheme, and they have set up that there was a meeting where this was explicitly discussed, right. so even though this was a matter of as you're saying, this is how things were done, that there was a meeting that they said, look, we're i'm running for president and this is what we're going to do. that's what the prosecution says happened. so pecker is not done yet. he comes back to the stand when trial resumes. so how do you think he will do under cross-examination without will be really any interesting test because he comes across as we've seen, very smooth and savvy. and let me just tell you what the facts are. he's never responded to the threats being attacked. t
this is conspiracy between david pecker, donald trump, and michael cohen. and that they all got together conspiracy requires two or more people to get together, have an agreement and the agreement is to do something unlawful. and what they're saying is what they were doing that was unlawful, was they were unlawfully trying to influence the election. so this is all part of the scheme. the criminal scheme, and they have set up that there was a meeting where this was explicitly discussed, right....
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enquirer, david pecker was i national enquirer, david pecker was the one _ national enquirer, david pecker was the one who allegedly went about facilitating some of these hush money— facilitating some of these hush money payments, he also allegedly entered _ money payments, he also allegedly entered into an agreement to publish negative _ entered into an agreement to publish negative stories about trump's components, so he gave a lot of insights— components, so he gave a lot of insights into what exactly was agreed — insights into what exactly was agreed upon. insights into what exactly was agreed upon-— insights into what exactly was aa-reeduon. ~ , ., ., �*, agreed upon. absolutely, and that's 'ust the agreed upon. absolutely, and that's just the first — agreed upon. absolutely, and that's just the first witness, _ agreed upon. absolutely, and that's just the first witness, prosecutors i just the first witness, prosecutors say they have several corroborating witnesses, they'll be going through those business records, so a lot to come over these next 6—8 weeks of this
enquirer, david pecker was i national enquirer, david pecker was the one _ national enquirer, david pecker was the one who allegedly went about facilitating some of these hush money— facilitating some of these hush money payments, he also allegedly entered _ money payments, he also allegedly entered into an agreement to publish negative _ entered into an agreement to publish negative stories about trump's components, so he gave a lot of insights— components, so he gave a lot of insights...
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money criminal case unfolds, tabloid executive david pecker has wrapped up a second day on the stand. as we're awaiting the judge's ruling on whether trump violated his gag order. are reporters and experts are standing by to break down all of today's most important developments and look ahead to what's next. welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world i'm wolf blitzer with a special report in the situation room the trump trial today in our trial coverage tonight, former national enquirer executive, david pecker, details his efforts to quote, catch and kill negative stories about donald trump with the express goal of helping trump's first presidential campaign. the testimony getting to the heart of the prosecution's argument that trump illegally aspired to influence the 2016 election. cnn's kara scannell has all the breaking news from inside the courtroom explosive witness testimony from a tablet executive and former president donald trump's hush money trial on tuesday x national enquirer publisher david pecker, described acting as the eyes and ears of trump's
money criminal case unfolds, tabloid executive david pecker has wrapped up a second day on the stand. as we're awaiting the judge's ruling on whether trump violated his gag order. are reporters and experts are standing by to break down all of today's most important developments and look ahead to what's next. welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world i'm wolf blitzer with a special report in the situation room the trump trial today in our trial coverage tonight,...
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answer, david pecker. being in the publishing industry for 40 years, i realized early in my career the only thing that was important was a cover of a magazine. so when the editors would prepare a cover we would have a meeting and they would present me what the concept was and cost was going be. question, prosecutor. and if the story involves for lack of a better way to say it a big story or a famous person. now, two salient points here about that testimony from david pecker. he's only on the stand for about two hours today. first, what he says counts as the normal amount of money for the checkbook journalism he says his company does. anything over $10,000, that would be unusual. that would be out of bounds. that would have to get personal approval from him as chairman, ceo from not just one of these publications but the entire company with dozens of publications. $10,000 was the ceiling. beyond that, it had to go personally through him. in this case prosecutors say they'll present evidence that ami was doi
answer, david pecker. being in the publishing industry for 40 years, i realized early in my career the only thing that was important was a cover of a magazine. so when the editors would prepare a cover we would have a meeting and they would present me what the concept was and cost was going be. question, prosecutor. and if the story involves for lack of a better way to say it a big story or a famous person. now, two salient points here about that testimony from david pecker. he's only on the...
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we're looking at your sketch of david pecker is testimony today. can you take us a little bit inside the room during this moment well, mr. pecker is very interesting a witness it's quite fascinating to hear about how they conspired to say awful things about anybody who was challenging donald trump for the presidency. >> he went after it mr. rubio, he went after ted cruz they were all sexual scandals. i think there was zero concerned about what was true or not true. they were just having a holhot which makes it kind of poetic justice that he's having to deal with this right now. >> interesting, i know you sketch trump in the e jean carroll defamation trial and his new york civil fraud trial as well. and you say he seems to have lost rank. a lot of his bravado since them, since then, tell us more about trump's demeanor in this courtroom from what you've observed over the past few days? >> i, mean, trump is basically still being treated like royalty. he has a procession that, you know, of secret service who follow him in and all of us are like being t
we're looking at your sketch of david pecker is testimony today. can you take us a little bit inside the room during this moment well, mr. pecker is very interesting a witness it's quite fascinating to hear about how they conspired to say awful things about anybody who was challenging donald trump for the presidency. >> he went after it mr. rubio, he went after ted cruz they were all sexual scandals. i think there was zero concerned about what was true or not true. they were just having a...
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david pecker is who he is. he has no problems saying that he was engaged in checkbook journalism, and, yes, he was publishing some outrageous stories, you know, and negative stories and untrue stories. so that's what he did in charge of the company that was the parent company of the national enquirer. what you want to do is plant reasonable doubt in jurors mind and distance donald trump away from pecker and cohen. it's going to be hard because pecker did testify he's known donald trump for years, and he knew him to be detailed oriented and almost a micromanager. that's hard to distance someone. if you're a micromanager and you're detail oriented, it's hard to say you are hands off. so you can expect them to do that. you can also expect them to try with mr. pecker to talk about other stories, negative stories and falsehoods that were published not at the behest of donald trump but had nothing to do with donald trump. he was in charge of the company for years. >> yeah, i was just going to say the simplest way to
david pecker is who he is. he has no problems saying that he was engaged in checkbook journalism, and, yes, he was publishing some outrageous stories, you know, and negative stories and untrue stories. so that's what he did in charge of the company that was the parent company of the national enquirer. what you want to do is plant reasonable doubt in jurors mind and distance donald trump away from pecker and cohen. it's going to be hard because pecker did testify he's known donald trump for...