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pecker, the former publisher of the national enquirer, going to be back up there. they have been kind of building in something have a crescendo to the point of the stormy daniel story, which we haven't really dug into yet. are you expecting that today? >> what are you looking for yeah. >> i think that's it. i think i'm looking for a couple of things. certainly we know just in terms of resetting that pecker being a person who was involved with the national enquirer, sets the stage for this entire scheme. what scheme? the catch and kill, we're going to get these stories. we're going to pay for them and we're going to kill them, suppress them from public view certainly, the prosecution it has been laying out the as they call it, the prosecutor's this conspiracy and cover up not the conspiracy is tried, but it notes this meeting in 2015 where they will go on to boost trump's electoral prospects by really denigrating his opponents and taking things belonging to trump out of the public domain now, in terms of the testimonies we look at them. they're right, mr. pecker, wh
pecker, the former publisher of the national enquirer, going to be back up there. they have been kind of building in something have a crescendo to the point of the stormy daniel story, which we haven't really dug into yet. are you expecting that today? >> what are you looking for yeah. >> i think that's it. i think i'm looking for a couple of things. certainly we know just in terms of resetting that pecker being a person who was involved with the national enquirer, sets the stage...
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. >> brooke: court is back in session today, first witness is david pecker, from "national enquirer." he says he worked with former trump attorney michael cohen to bury negative stories before the 2016 election and testified about a catch and kill deal he made with a trump door man about exclusive rights about a story he had about trump, the story was proven to be false. pecker never published it. prosecution still has to prove the former president was directly involved in the plans. jonathan turley says they have no case. listen. >> jonathan: this case is becoming inkocomprehensible, th newest theory, we have another dead misdemeanor. the misdemeanor is that trump conspired by promoting his own election unlawfully and they don't explain where the unlawful part is. >> brooke: we're still waiting for the judge to decide if former president trump violated gag order that prevents him from talking about people in the case. prosecutors are saying they violated that and are asking to hold him in contempt of court. >> carley: big day for the former president at supreme court, as well. >> bro
. >> brooke: court is back in session today, first witness is david pecker, from "national enquirer." he says he worked with former trump attorney michael cohen to bury negative stories before the 2016 election and testified about a catch and kill deal he made with a trump door man about exclusive rights about a story he had about trump, the story was proven to be false. pecker never published it. prosecution still has to prove the former president was directly involved in the...
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testimony will get under way with former national enquirer publisher david pecker, set to take the witness stand for a third day. prosecutors wrapped up on tuesday after pecker described an alleged catch and kill scheme that he participated in to cover up an alleged affair between trump and playboy model karen mcdougal. at the same time, judge juan merchan could also rule today on whether the former president violated his gag order. yesterday key witnesses in former trump attorney michael cohen stated he would stop posting or speaking publicly about the trial until after its conclusion. cohen is not under a gag order but has been the target of many of trump's recent rants. though donald trump gave an interview to the abc affiliate in philadelphia this week where he criticized michael cohen, and now one of trump's former attorneys is weighing in on those remarks. here's what trump said followed by new comments from his former lawyer, tim parlator. >> michael cohen is a convicted liar, and he's not no credibility whatsoever. he's a lawyer and you rely on your lawyers, but michael cohen was a
testimony will get under way with former national enquirer publisher david pecker, set to take the witness stand for a third day. prosecutors wrapped up on tuesday after pecker described an alleged catch and kill scheme that he participated in to cover up an alleged affair between trump and playboy model karen mcdougal. at the same time, judge juan merchan could also rule today on whether the former president violated his gag order. yesterday key witnesses in former trump attorney michael cohen...
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we're talking about david pecker. amanda has been friends with donald trump's since the 80s, sitting right across from him in witness dan, just feet away from the former president as he stares him down, giving these dirty details about this catch and kill scheme in full detail. that is what we are expecting more of tomorrow. and that all started of course, as we've learned from the testimony in august 20 when they made that deal between trump, michael cohen, and david pecker about being the eyes and the ears of the campaign and how they were going to find the stories that were negative about trump are salacious about trump, bury them and promote stories that were positive ahead of that campaign. they went into detail about that trump tower doorman who had a story about a woman who claimed that she fathered a child or he fathered a child of her for us and then before court wrapped up and david pecker was done for the day they got into the details of but another playboy playmate, karen mcdougal, who of course alleged af
we're talking about david pecker. amanda has been friends with donald trump's since the 80s, sitting right across from him in witness dan, just feet away from the former president as he stares him down, giving these dirty details about this catch and kill scheme in full detail. that is what we are expecting more of tomorrow. and that all started of course, as we've learned from the testimony in august 20 when they made that deal between trump, michael cohen, and david pecker about being the...
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for it, but i think it was both for david pecker. i think he was an associate in business person for with donald trump for a very long period of time and then came this crucial critical meeting in 2015, where they formulated this conspiracy to illegally or an awfully allegedly is what the prosecution is going to say interfere with the election and it was all about the election at that point. and we know because one of the things he said was with the doorman that was not we were not able to confirm that story. in fact, we debunked it, but had it been real, we would have released it after the election. it was very clear that what they were doing was about the election and at that point when you're paying, wasn't to protect melania trump. it was about the right if it was, then he wouldn't have released it after the election. he was doing these catch and kills fine. but when it was about the election, those when you're paying people, it's an in-kind donation and you have to declare that at a dangerous point, there and asked him whether y
for it, but i think it was both for david pecker. i think he was an associate in business person for with donald trump for a very long period of time and then came this crucial critical meeting in 2015, where they formulated this conspiracy to illegally or an awfully allegedly is what the prosecution is going to say interfere with the election and it was all about the election at that point. and we know because one of the things he said was with the doorman that was not we were not able to...
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yet, he has been radio silent when it comes to david pecker . he is railing on michael: every day tomorrow and yesterday. what does that tell you about david pecker? >> it tells me one of two things. who else does donald trump never criticize? judge aileen cannon because he thinks she is still going to give him a solid in the documents case in florida. with respect to david pecker it is either because sometime he thinks david is going to do him a solid in his testimony come tomorrow. i think that's unlikely because pecker is under a non-prosecute agreement. if he starts saying good stuff he could be prosecuted. or, pecker knows where even more of trump's bodies are buried so he's a threat. he doesn't want to antagonize pecker but he also hasn't said anything bad about hope, so i think maybe he's trying to see who his true enemies are and who still may hold out and do a little something for the donald. >> harry, my colleague, john allen, wrote an interesting piece today for he said trump's legal team is spending an enormous amount of time discuss
yet, he has been radio silent when it comes to david pecker . he is railing on michael: every day tomorrow and yesterday. what does that tell you about david pecker? >> it tells me one of two things. who else does donald trump never criticize? judge aileen cannon because he thinks she is still going to give him a solid in the documents case in florida. with respect to david pecker it is either because sometime he thinks david is going to do him a solid in his testimony come tomorrow. i...
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and then hopefully they will maybe get into get from david pecker more information about why this was unique as opposed to something that was normal and as we talk about trump's case and the effort to help his campaign as opposed to just do and checkbook media that there's this had a different level of involvement a different purpose. that purpose being to interfere remember the election on curious. >> what do you think the trump legal defense team is going to try to do to help their client with david pecker. i mean, i think honestly their best defense on this front is i mean, they will do anything they can to diminish trump's personal involvement, to try to cross to try to limit packers testimony. but the fact of the matter is the catch and kill scheme is not the core criminal conduct. that's at issue here. the court cannot conduct is everything that follows it concerning payment to stormy daniels and in particular, how those payments were booked internally on trump's books and why, how and why those payments were booked so i expect the todd blanche and trump's lawyers, to the extent
and then hopefully they will maybe get into get from david pecker more information about why this was unique as opposed to something that was normal and as we talk about trump's case and the effort to help his campaign as opposed to just do and checkbook media that there's this had a different level of involvement a different purpose. that purpose being to interfere remember the election on curious. >> what do you think the trump legal defense team is going to try to do to help their...
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so after david pecker, yes. so we don't know the exact order yet. we're playing that sort of day by day. of course, we will hear from michael cohen, one of the big questions will be to what extent is their testimony consistent or inconsistent with one another? we probably will hear from stormy daniels, the recipient of the allegedly criminally covered up payments. we also may hear from hope hicks, who was involved in the trump campaign's efforts to rebound after that really damaging access hollywood tape. and we have already begun to see the prosecution introduce financial checks. they've introduced some of them but through david pecker, we're going to see, among other things, copies of the checks that donald trump row and some of them he signed in order to reimburse michael cohen what the prosecution is going to try to do. laura, which we did all the time, is build a case that is a latticework or everything overlaps and supports one another we'll see if the defense lawyers can poke holes in that. >> well, i'll see le come on back. thank you so much
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it's because somehow he thinks david pecker is going to do him a solid in his testimony tomorrow. i think that unlikely. if he flips the script and starts saying good stuff for trump the prosecutors don't anticipate, pecker will be in trouble because he's going to be prosecuted. >> let's go to the or. >> the or is pecker knows where even more of trump's bodies are buried. >> bingo. >> he's a threat and he doesn't want to antagonize pecker, but he also hasn't said anything bad about hope hicks. i think maybe he's trying to see who his true enemies are and who still may hold out and do a little something for the donald. >> trump fears the pecker. harry, my colleague john allen wrote an interesting piece today where he said trump's legal team is spending an enormous amount of time discussing that donald trump should not be referred to as mr. trump. he needs to be referred to as the president of the united states, like they are spending a huge amount of time in court doing this. this will have absolutely no impact on the outcome of this case. what does that tell you about their priori
it's because somehow he thinks david pecker is going to do him a solid in his testimony tomorrow. i think that unlikely. if he flips the script and starts saying good stuff for trump the prosecutors don't anticipate, pecker will be in trouble because he's going to be prosecuted. >> let's go to the or. >> the or is pecker knows where even more of trump's bodies are buried. >> bingo. >> he's a threat and he doesn't want to antagonize pecker, but he also hasn't said...
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that is what is exactly the same with david pecker and the inquirer. this is about a financial relationship. they believe they have a fiduciary , they believe this is the responsibility they have to the shareholders, to keep the pro-trump propaganda going, to keep the viewers watching and then you will see on the air on fox when they interview voters, the voters are saying the exact same things jesse watters is saying. >> it is a feedback loop . from a legal perspective, this seems like terra incognito, to some degree. i was struck by last week when the jurors, multiple jurors were saying i am worried about my safety. judge juan merchan set i'm directing the press apply common sense and refrain from writing about anything that has to do, for example, with physical descriptions of the jurors. that is not necessary, it serves no purpose. he is asking the press and that included the mainstream press, frankly, is his ability to circumscribe the amount of information put out there as it concerns the press reduced to just request or is there anything legally
that is what is exactly the same with david pecker and the inquirer. this is about a financial relationship. they believe they have a fiduciary , they believe this is the responsibility they have to the shareholders, to keep the pro-trump propaganda going, to keep the viewers watching and then you will see on the air on fox when they interview voters, the voters are saying the exact same things jesse watters is saying. >> it is a feedback loop . from a legal perspective, this seems like...
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. >> but on what we're about to hear on the witness stand, we're hearing from david pecker right now, but we know that we expect stormy daniels and karen mcdougal to get up there potentially. >> i just remind everyone what karen mcdougal has said about her alleged affair with donald trump when i got what ham actually, there was a there was a real relationship there, there was real if they were real feelings between the two of us, not just myself, not just him. >> there was a rare relationship. there. were you in love with him? >> i want to and do you think he was in love with you? >> he was. yeah did don't trump ever say to you that he loved you all the time? i still me he loved me no. >> i don't maybe this is not a question, but is monitor angry are about stormy daniels or karen mcdougal? >> well, this is something i reported on back in the de for cnn and she's far more concerned, an emotional about karen mcdougal cool. because mostly of the things that she just said there to anderson cooper she was in her home, right? she don't jump took her to their their private personal home and
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the first witness as mentioned was the tabloid star witness david pecker. by the on the other hand of this hour, i'm also going to get into trump's defense arguments which are important to understand and draw on what we learn from his own lawyers, what they've said in court, in public and sometimes even on this program. right now we look at what the d.a.'s team is telling the jury, that they will prove trump committed a type of election fraud. we'll start with what they said in court. the d.a. thinks they can nail this defendant because, quote, this case is about criminal conspiracy and a cover-up. plain english, and people know cover-ups can get you in trouble. quote, this was a planned, coordinated, long-running conspiracy to influence the 2016 election, prosecutor says, to help trump get elected. it was election fraud, pure and simple. note the use of the word "fraud." that's something donald trump faces in civil court, where he has been found liable for business fraud, but more importantly on the election fraud claim which they're arguing makes ate felo
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pecker donald trump has not attacked david pecker& i think it may be because he feels that pecker self has a little bit of power over him. you know, that there's a lot of stuff that pecker knows that maybe he's not talking about, but donald trump has attacked everybody else but he's left david pecker alone, which i think is kind of curious. >> you certainly don't want to do more harm, right? is they think about cross-examine and they think about taking on pecker. you don't want to do more harm and that so you might be running yeah, it's interesting you. >> a good point. all right, guys. thank you very, very much. just ahead. the other consequential case looming over donald trump with the us supreme court preparing to hear arguments tomorrow on his claim of presidential immunity from the federal law. january 6 case we'll be right back so this to playoffs, great teammates trust each other. >> we're going to do a trust falls, stand up, trust what you're certainly up doc told you here's a dummy kinda riva support your brain health. married janet. hey, eddie, know fraser, franck. frank bred
pecker donald trump has not attacked david pecker& i think it may be because he feels that pecker self has a little bit of power over him. you know, that there's a lot of stuff that pecker knows that maybe he's not talking about, but donald trump has attacked everybody else but he's left david pecker alone, which i think is kind of curious. >> you certainly don't want to do more harm, right? is they think about cross-examine and they think about taking on pecker. you don't want to do...
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david pecker told the court that trump was... this is done as election interference, everybody knows it, i am here instead of being able to be in pennsylvania and georgia and lots of other places campaigning. and it's very unfair. donald trump has pleaded not guilty to sa counts of falsifying business records, and denies having an alleged sexual encounter with ms daniels. meanwhile, david pecker will be back in court tomorrow. now we are joined by lachlan cartwright, one of david pecker�*s lieutenants at ami, the owners of the national enquirer, who turned source for many of the revelations that form the basis of the hush money trial, and was the originator of the catch and kill phrase. he is now a journalist at the holywood reporter. thank you forjoining us. explain your role in this. i thank you forjoining us. explain your role in this.— your role in this. i was the executive editor _ your role in this. i was the executive editor of - your role in this. i was the executive editor of the - your role in this. i was the - exec
david pecker told the court that trump was... this is done as election interference, everybody knows it, i am here instead of being able to be in pennsylvania and georgia and lots of other places campaigning. and it's very unfair. donald trump has pleaded not guilty to sa counts of falsifying business records, and denies having an alleged sexual encounter with ms daniels. meanwhile, david pecker will be back in court tomorrow. now we are joined by lachlan cartwright, one of david pecker�*s...
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the southern district of new york made a decision back to three years ago to give david pecker a non-profit because they believed him they did not make that decision. and they said to the contrary to michael cohen sentencing judge, he was not fully forth. >> how do you think that defense is going to handle david pecker? >> i think they're going to try a couple of things. one, they will attack that very non-profit, non-prosecution agreement that we've been talking about. they're going to argue this is unfair. why are you walking free when donald trump, they're trying to lock up donald trump and they're going to argue, you are trying to please the prosecutors. they gave you a sweetheart deal. you're on the palm of their hand. i think the other thing they're going to do and i don't know how much traction they're gonna get is they're going to try to argue the vast majority of your contacts about this catch and kill. we're not with donald trump. they were with michael cohen and he was operating off the books. but as you remember, jake, there were plenty of contacts, not plenty, but a few context
the southern district of new york made a decision back to three years ago to give david pecker a non-profit because they believed him they did not make that decision. and they said to the contrary to michael cohen sentencing judge, he was not fully forth. >> how do you think that defense is going to handle david pecker? >> i think they're going to try a couple of things. one, they will attack that very non-profit, non-prosecution agreement that we've been talking about. they're...
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then with the testimony going into the testimony of david pecker. my fellow reporters -- it's every line is something we have heard, have past reported on. it's fascinating. it's going to continue, certainly, over the next six weeks. >> what is the sense of what you are hearing in term -- i think you and other reporters have said there will be things we have never heard before. certainly, pecker's immunity deal with the southern district of new york means we haven't heard him in his own words before. doesn't mean the justice department didn't know what he knew. but we hadn't heard it. he testified to a criminal election interference scheme that by every measure violates any reasonable read of election laws. what is the reaction to what is now coming in quickly? >> i certainly think the reporting -- the core reporters are riveted by what pecker is saying. the jury -- this is a marathon for them. they certainly came in, jury selection happened quickly. i think they are just in the process of absorbing. i think the last few days they were certainly int
then with the testimony going into the testimony of david pecker. my fellow reporters -- it's every line is something we have heard, have past reported on. it's fascinating. it's going to continue, certainly, over the next six weeks. >> what is the sense of what you are hearing in term -- i think you and other reporters have said there will be things we have never heard before. certainly, pecker's immunity deal with the southern district of new york means we haven't heard him in his own...
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pecker, testified about a 2015 trump tower meeting with both trump and his former attorney, michael cohen, were pecker agreed to run positive stories about trump and run negative stories about his political rivals joining us now to discuss is former trump white house lawyer and cnn legal commentator, jim scholz. jim, thanks so much for being with us let's start where we left off in court yesterday and we'll reset to pick up tomorrow and that's testimony from david pecker prosecutor zeroed in on questions about the arrangement between trump and the publisher, and the intent behind it. partly because their case relies on making a clear argument to the jury that pecker tried to help trump for political purposes, not personal ones that gets to the core of the alleged conspiracy. i'm wondering how well you think prosecutor did in illustrating that for the jury well, a couple of things. >> one, it was they made clear that there was this idea that the national enquirer was going in pecker. we're going to push out negative stories like you said, and kill the bad ones, right? about trump? >>
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and how will trump's attorneys push back against david pecker whose testimony has already shown the former president to be a willing participant in a scheme to skew the 2020 election. >>> but we start at the supreme court where for the first time since they overturned roe v. wade, justices are being forced to reckon with the by-product of that decision and rule on the abortion issue all over again. at the heart of the arguments, whether idaho's near total abortion ban should take precedence over federal law and block abortions. in situations where abortion would help stabilize pregnant patients undergoing a medical crisis. now, idaho's attorney says it should. the government disagreed. >> what idaho is doing is waiting for women to wait and deteriorate and suffer the lifelong health consequences with no possible upside for the fetus. it just stacks tragedy upon tragedy. >> and it can't be the -- you know, it's become transfer is the appropriate standard of care in idaho, but it can't be the right standard of care to force somebody onto a helicopter. >> this supreme court battle over aborti
and how will trump's attorneys push back against david pecker whose testimony has already shown the former president to be a willing participant in a scheme to skew the 2020 election. >>> but we start at the supreme court where for the first time since they overturned roe v. wade, justices are being forced to reckon with the by-product of that decision and rule on the abortion issue all over again. at the heart of the arguments, whether idaho's near total abortion ban should take...
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david pecker's statement have not been consistent. so if you have two liars that are getting a platform and can go on the alphabet soup networks at night, those that don't spell anything, only fox does, and you can't defend yourself against the lies, that a convicted liar, michael cohen is saying against you, that is the unfairness that i see here. you know, i don't know where stormy daniels falls in telling the truth or not. certainly somebody that went to prison that is your former attorney can do some real damage if you can't at least say no, this is what the truth is. you can't defend yourself. that's not just only fairness. it's an injustice and it's a reason to let this go and move on to the next. if they want to reset and say, okay, we're going to start the table all over again and from here on out, $1,000 for a thing, trump has enough to talk about. he's back on the campaign trail when he can be. he's talking american people's troubles and woes under this current administration, which is a silver lining with a gag order. >> em
david pecker's statement have not been consistent. so if you have two liars that are getting a platform and can go on the alphabet soup networks at night, those that don't spell anything, only fox does, and you can't defend yourself against the lies, that a convicted liar, michael cohen is saying against you, that is the unfairness that i see here. you know, i don't know where stormy daniels falls in telling the truth or not. certainly somebody that went to prison that is your former attorney...
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pecker testimony. we heard it most of the day, not all day yesterday. we expected to resume tomorrow the court is releasing the actual transcripts and part of what i want to read from the testimony that they released last night is david pecker talking about trump's involvement specifically? and he said i would describe mr. trump is very knowledgeable. i would describe him as a very, very detail-oriented. i would describe him as an almost as a micromanager from what i saw that he looked at every all aspects of whatever the issue was from a lawyer's perspective, why is that such important testimony? >> well, it's important because one of the main things that the prosecutors have to prove in this case is that the former president was knowledgeable about the fraud that is alleged to have taken place and so this general characterization of the former president as being a micromanager, being involved in the details of things sort of goes along that path of him having knowledge of the fraud that the prosecuto
pecker testimony. we heard it most of the day, not all day yesterday. we expected to resume tomorrow the court is releasing the actual transcripts and part of what i want to read from the testimony that they released last night is david pecker talking about trump's involvement specifically? and he said i would describe mr. trump is very knowledgeable. i would describe him as a very, very detail-oriented. i would describe him as an almost as a micromanager from what i saw that he looked at every...
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but when court resumes tomorrow morning, david pecker will be back on the witness stand. yesterday, he detailed the catch and kill agreement with trump and michael cohen to buy and bury unflattering stoies about trump during the 2016 presidential bid. with us now to talk more about this, "new york times" investigative recorder susan craig, who spent years covering trump's businesses and finances. she's also been in court every day of the trial. so, sue, let's talk about yesterday, how did pecker do and what were the highlights of his testimony? >> right, so he started in the morning, and he really took jurors through chronologically how things went. the highlight of the day talked a lot about it on air was that meeting at trump tower, where they came to this agreement where david pecker was the eyes and ears of the campaign, he would catch negative stories for trump, and pay for them, and not publish them, and then he would put out negative stories about donald trump's opponents. and it was incredible to hear just the details of this scheme. there was points, michael cohe
but when court resumes tomorrow morning, david pecker will be back on the witness stand. yesterday, he detailed the catch and kill agreement with trump and michael cohen to buy and bury unflattering stoies about trump during the 2016 presidential bid. with us now to talk more about this, "new york times" investigative recorder susan craig, who spent years covering trump's businesses and finances. she's also been in court every day of the trial. so, sue, let's talk about yesterday, how...
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court resumes tomorrow. >> so david pecker is back on the stand tomorrow. one of the pieces that came out in the prosecution's opening but we haven't gotten to it in his testimony yet is the fact that after these payments were made from ami to dino the doorman and to karen mcdougal, after the election, they were released from their ndas. that is critical because, again, what was the purpose of these hush money payments, just to make a hush money payment, it's not illegal, right? but to do it to influence the election and when they're above certain limits, that's what makes it an illegal campaign contribution. so the fact that these were for the purpose of the campaign is critical, and when you have these ndas being released right after the election saying, okay, go ahead, talk as much as you want now, it's very clear what the purpose of the payments were. it was for the campaign. like, you look at the john edwards' case, right, where there was an acquittal on hush money payments. there were hush money payments there being made after the election. that's par
court resumes tomorrow. >> so david pecker is back on the stand tomorrow. one of the pieces that came out in the prosecution's opening but we haven't gotten to it in his testimony yet is the fact that after these payments were made from ami to dino the doorman and to karen mcdougal, after the election, they were released from their ndas. that is critical because, again, what was the purpose of these hush money payments, just to make a hush money payment, it's not illegal, right? but to do...
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he apparently said to david pecker i don't buy stories. so that is something that certainly the defense is going to focus on to say, wait a second. didn't you say donald trump doesn't buy stories? pecker may say they ended up changing their mind. they ended up changing their minds. but from the defense perspective, they're going to try and focus on michael cohen being the decision maker here and not donald trump. >> george: we haven't heard from the judge on holding donald trump in contempt. it was a brutal hearing for his lawyers. >> it was. the question kept coming up exactly what is it that donald trump is responding to? they kept saying he's responding. to what? to what? i think in the end here, for now, he's going to get a slap on the wrist and very firm warning. >> george: no fine? >> fines, okay. i view that at this point a slap on the wrist. does he care if he gets a $1,000 fine? i don't think so. what he cares about is the possibility of something more than that. i don't think that's going to happen. >> george: he doesn't want to
he apparently said to david pecker i don't buy stories. so that is something that certainly the defense is going to focus on to say, wait a second. didn't you say donald trump doesn't buy stories? pecker may say they ended up changing their mind. they ended up changing their minds. but from the defense perspective, they're going to try and focus on michael cohen being the decision maker here and not donald trump. >> george: we haven't heard from the judge on holding donald trump in...
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. >> we learned from former publisher of national enquirer david pecker he and trump had a relationship. trump sold them a lot of magazines. he was a popular figure and they wanted to make money, they put trump on their cover. pecker testified when he became aware trump wanted to run for president, he saw this as opportunity to help himself and help trump by being eyes and ears for him. he warned trump that women may come forward and have stories about him and he would help him out on that front. he engaged in a catch and kill scheme, where media buys rights to a story and do not publish it, this is in respect to mcdougal karen mcdougal. p pecker bought the story and squashed it. in the tabloid world, it did not reveal anything criminal for the actual case charged. >> jacqui: there is op ed by boston law professor that reads, i thought alvin bragg case was a legal embarrassment and now it is a historic mistake. embarrassment of prosecutorial ethics. what is your take on this, you have had that sentiment echoed across several different outlets. >> it is a problem when people ask what is
. >> we learned from former publisher of national enquirer david pecker he and trump had a relationship. trump sold them a lot of magazines. he was a popular figure and they wanted to make money, they put trump on their cover. pecker testified when he became aware trump wanted to run for president, he saw this as opportunity to help himself and help trump by being eyes and ears for him. he warned trump that women may come forward and have stories about him and he would help him out on...
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david pecker specifically testified meeting with the then republican presidential candidate in 2015, asking how his publication could help trump's campaign. experts say more witnesses will take the witness stand, but it's not clear right now if donald trump himself will be one of them. >> legally, i think trump would be much better off relying on the weakness of bragg's case. but politically, it's going to be consequential if he doesn't take the stand because they'll say he took the fifth. now yesterday, court began with a hearing on whether donald trump violated his gag order by making statements on social media. >> the judge hasn't ruled yet on it. testimony resumes tomorrow. well, a first of its kind, bill has passed in the senate transportation committee. the new law would address concerns about expedited airport screening services that let travelers pay to cut through those tsa lines. the committee passed the bill in a 8 to 4 vote. it would require fast track services like clear to pay for its own tsa staffed lanes at airport security. if the identity screening companies don't c
david pecker specifically testified meeting with the then republican presidential candidate in 2015, asking how his publication could help trump's campaign. experts say more witnesses will take the witness stand, but it's not clear right now if donald trump himself will be one of them. >> legally, i think trump would be much better off relying on the weakness of bragg's case. but politically, it's going to be consequential if he doesn't take the stand because they'll say he took the...
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david pecker, the long-time publisher of the "national enquirer" sitting for hours on the witness stand at former president trump's criminal trial as the prosecution scrolled through pages of tabloid headlines. some praising donald trump, others making brazen claims about his claims of a secret agreement between friends to help get trump elected. a plan pecker says that involved paying people off so they couldn't go public. like the $30,000 he gave a doorman that was shopping a false story about mr. trump e a counts mr. trump faces from the indictment of the alleged crime of falsifying business records. the likely gop nominee has denied all wrongdoing. but prosecutors hope fathering his housekeeper's baby, testimony far afield from the actual 34 counts mr. trump faces in the indictment for the alleged crime of falsifying business records. the likely gop nominee has denied all wrongdoing. prosecutors hope pecker will show a long-standing pattern of silencing things that could derail his campaign and covering his tracks with a phony paper trail. the judge is mulling whether the former pre
david pecker, the long-time publisher of the "national enquirer" sitting for hours on the witness stand at former president trump's criminal trial as the prosecution scrolled through pages of tabloid headlines. some praising donald trump, others making brazen claims about his claims of a secret agreement between friends to help get trump elected. a plan pecker says that involved paying people off so they couldn't go public. like the $30,000 he gave a doorman that was shopping a false...
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and that's what they do with david pecker. so all of this testimony about this is what we would do if we learned something that could damage his candidacy. and that was explicit in this meeting that they had it's all about the election, then we would kill that story. so that's what they're proving with this test. simona, it also has the side benefit of dirty up the defendant a bit totally legitimately because it does go to this critical issue that they have to prove. but it's disgusting what they did about false statement of false stories that they would plant about his opponents. and so you kind of get this side benefit of the jury thinking wow, that's really dirty play that the defendant was engaged in with david pecker and the political world donald trump is always talking about things being rigged. but in this case, this was something being rigged in his favor i do wanna ask you, elliot, as we go forward, pecker is going to continue to take the stand. what do we expecting to hear or on thursday because some of the salaciou
and that's what they do with david pecker. so all of this testimony about this is what we would do if we learned something that could damage his candidacy. and that was explicit in this meeting that they had it's all about the election, then we would kill that story. so that's what they're proving with this test. simona, it also has the side benefit of dirty up the defendant a bit totally legitimately because it does go to this critical issue that they have to prove. but it's disgusting what...
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yesterday, trump heard testimony from former national incuber publisher david pecker. he promised to help trump bury stories during the 2016 campaign. prosecutors argue this was meant to influence the election by buying rights to those stories and not publish them. court proceedings resume tomorrow. gianna? >>> well, new affordable housing is coming to oakland's lake merritt. a ground-breaking ceremony was held by state and local leaders. the new development will have 91 apartment units and 25% of them will provide supportive housing for homeless families. the money for the project comes from an infrastructure bond passed by voters in 22. meanwhile, in the soh bay, a grand opening for thnewest affordable housing development in downtown sunnyvale. it's located on south matilda and west iowa avenues. a rib been cutting ceremony was held at meridian. it has 89 units and 23 of them are set aside for low income households with intellectual and developmental disabilities. since the building is in downtown, it's close to several parks and stores and community centers. >>> the
yesterday, trump heard testimony from former national incuber publisher david pecker. he promised to help trump bury stories during the 2016 campaign. prosecutors argue this was meant to influence the election by buying rights to those stories and not publish them. court proceedings resume tomorrow. gianna? >>> well, new affordable housing is coming to oakland's lake merritt. a ground-breaking ceremony was held by state and local leaders. the new development will have 91 apartment...
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david pecker was on stand for two-and-a-half hours yesterday. we'll be back on the sanne. he's expected to be on thursday after everything you saw from david pecker in from the line of questioning from prosecutors, what do you think what do you think he needs to do or they want him to do, come thursday, how much damage do you think he's going to do? he's telling a very interesting and compelling story, but everything he's told so far, while certainly immoral, while certainly dishonest is not illegal. >> here, he's talking about things that are unfortunately legal. they are unfortunately part of campaigns. the idea that people would pay money to create false information to make their opponent look bad. other campaigns have done that. the steele dossier is a good example of that with the so-called trump p tape and everything else. so it is the unfortunate reality, what they need to do is then tie that to the false business records and i don't think that they're going to be able to do that with this witness. i think he's he's doing a very good job of setting the scene and giv
david pecker was on stand for two-and-a-half hours yesterday. we'll be back on the sanne. he's expected to be on thursday after everything you saw from david pecker in from the line of questioning from prosecutors, what do you think what do you think he needs to do or they want him to do, come thursday, how much damage do you think he's going to do? he's telling a very interesting and compelling story, but everything he's told so far, while certainly immoral, while certainly dishonest is not...
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yesterday, trump heard testimony from former national encaner publisher david pecker. he promised to help trump bury negative stories during the 2016 campaign. prosecutors argue this was meant to influence the election by buying rights to those stories and not publish them. court proceedings resume tomorrow. gianna? >>> new affordable housing is coming to oakland's lake merritt. a ground-breaking ceremony was held by state and local leaders. now the new development will have 91 apartment units and 25% of thome will provide supportive housing for homeless families. the money for the project comes from an infrastructure bond meanwhile, in the south bay, a grand opening for the newest affordable housing development. it is located on south matilda and west of iowa avenues. the new development has 89 units and 23 of them are set aside for low income house holds with intellectual and developmental disabilities. now since the building is in downtown, it's close to several parks, stores and community centers. >>> the san francisco film festival kicks off today and it may be a
yesterday, trump heard testimony from former national encaner publisher david pecker. he promised to help trump bury negative stories during the 2016 campaign. prosecutors argue this was meant to influence the election by buying rights to those stories and not publish them. court proceedings resume tomorrow. gianna? >>> new affordable housing is coming to oakland's lake merritt. a ground-breaking ceremony was held by state and local leaders. now the new development will have 91...
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. >> meanwhile, as testimony resumed in court, national enquirer publisher david pecker laid out the so-called catch and kill agreement. he made pecker testifying. he met with michael cohen and trump and pledged to run flattering stories about trump and hit jobs on trump's opponents, including a false story claiming senator ted cruz's father was involved in the jfk assassination. >> what was he doing with lee harvey oswald shortly before the death and before the shooting? it's horrible. >> pecker also offered to be the campaign's eyes and ears to alert cohen if he caught wind of any potentially damaging stories, pecker saying he told trump he tried to kill those stories so they'd never see the light of day. andrew dymburt, abc news, new york, 509. >> this morning we're taking a look at your travel forecast. new york city is experiencing some late day showers today, but it's a mild high of 70 degrees. another area we're watching, the pacific northwest for a little bit of rain as well. other places like la. looking lovely today. chicago, atlanta. we'll have temperatures in the 70s acro
. >> meanwhile, as testimony resumed in court, national enquirer publisher david pecker laid out the so-called catch and kill agreement. he made pecker testifying. he met with michael cohen and trump and pledged to run flattering stories about trump and hit jobs on trump's opponents, including a false story claiming senator ted cruz's father was involved in the jfk assassination. >> what was he doing with lee harvey oswald shortly before the death and before the shooting? it's...
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. >>> the prosecution called former "national enquirer" publisher david pecker back to the stand tuesday for more testimony in former president donald trump's criminal hush-money trial. cbs news correspondent michael george reports from new york. >> reporter: donald trump sat just feet away as former "national enquirer" publisher david pecker testified that during the 2016 campaign he promised to help suppress stories that could be damaging to the former president. prosecutors allege the practice known in the tabloid industry as catch and kill was meant to illegally influence the election by buying the rights to those stories and never publishing them. >> david pecker is a very strong witness for the prosecution. he seems very solid on the stand. he certainly seems like he doesn't have an axe to grind about donald trump. >> reporter: prosecutors say the catch-and-kill plan was said to be from the payment from michael cohen to former adult film star stormy daniels. they say it was to keep her quiet about an alleged sexual encounter with trump who denies it all. >> i don't have to talk abo
. >>> the prosecution called former "national enquirer" publisher david pecker back to the stand tuesday for more testimony in former president donald trump's criminal hush-money trial. cbs news correspondent michael george reports from new york. >> reporter: donald trump sat just feet away as former "national enquirer" publisher david pecker testified that during the 2016 campaign he promised to help suppress stories that could be damaging to the former...
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the ex-national inquirer publisher, d publisher david pecker testified he worked with michael cohen to bury stories that could have damaged the 2016 trump campaign and to embellish negative stories about mr. trump's political rivals. pecker testified the arrangements stem from a 2015 trump tower meeting with cohen and the former president. the case centers on allegations that mr. trump colluded to illegally influence the 2016 election and falsify business records to cover up an alleged affair, all accusations he denies. >> what's going on is a disgrace. >> reporter: the day started with a contentious hearing over whether mr. trump violated the judge's gag order, barring him from publicly attacking witnesses and jurors, something prosecutors say he's done repeatedly, citing his comments about cohen right outside the courtroom. >> he got caught lying. pure lying. >> reporter: the trump legal team arguing the former president is defending himself as a presidential candidate, not a criminal defend ant. a prosecutor rejected that, saying throwing maga into a post doesn't make it political,
the ex-national inquirer publisher, d publisher david pecker testified he worked with michael cohen to bury stories that could have damaged the 2016 trump campaign and to embellish negative stories about mr. trump's political rivals. pecker testified the arrangements stem from a 2015 trump tower meeting with cohen and the former president. the case centers on allegations that mr. trump colluded to illegally influence the 2016 election and falsify business records to cover up an alleged affair,...
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. >> meanwhile, as testimony resumed in court, national enquirer publisher david pecker laid out the so-called catch and kill agreement he made during the 2016 presidential campaign. pecker testifying, he met with michael cohen and trump and pledged to run flattering stories about trump and hit jobs on trump's opponents, including a false story claiming senator ted cruz's father was involved in the jfk assassination, which trump referenced on the campaign trail. >> what was he doing with lee harvey oswald shortly before the death, before the shooting? it's horrible. >> pecker also offered to be the campaign's eyes and ears to alert cohen if he caught wind of any potentially damaging stories, pecker saying he told trump he tried to kill those stories so they'd never see the light of day. when he learned a former playboy model, karen mcdougal, was trying to sell her story about an affair with trump, which trump denies. pecker's company bought the rights to the story for $150,000. but to protect trump, pecker says he never published the story. pecker's due back on the stand when the tri
. >> meanwhile, as testimony resumed in court, national enquirer publisher david pecker laid out the so-called catch and kill agreement he made during the 2016 presidential campaign. pecker testifying, he met with michael cohen and trump and pledged to run flattering stories about trump and hit jobs on trump's opponents, including a false story claiming senator ted cruz's father was involved in the jfk assassination, which trump referenced on the campaign trail. >> what was he doing...
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david pecker was on stand for two-and-a-half hours yesterday. we'll be back on the sanne. he's expected to be on thursday after everything you saw from david pecker in from the line of questioning from prosecutors, what do you think what do you think he
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david pecker specifically testified meeting with the then republican presidential candidate in 2015, asking how his publication could help trump's campaign. experts say more witnesses will testify as well, but it's not clear if donald trump will be one of them. >> legally, i think trump would be much better off relying on the weakness of bragg's case, but politically it's going to be consequential if he doesn't take the stand, because they'll say he took the fifth. >> now, court began yesterday with a hearing on whether trump violated his gag order by making statements on social media. the judge has not ruled as yet on the issue. testimony resumes tomorrow. >> the giants look to sweep the new york mets this afternoon. the giants won their second straight game thanks to another dominating performance by ace logan webb. he extended a scoreless streak to 19 innings, aided by a fabulous diving catch from left fielder michael conforto. look at that. could watch that all day. uh.huh the giants hope their big money free agent pitcher blake snell will have a better game when he takes the mou
david pecker specifically testified meeting with the then republican presidential candidate in 2015, asking how his publication could help trump's campaign. experts say more witnesses will testify as well, but it's not clear if donald trump will be one of them. >> legally, i think trump would be much better off relying on the weakness of bragg's case, but politically it's going to be consequential if he doesn't take the stand, because they'll say he took the fifth. >> now, court...
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trump. >> david pecker is a very strong witness for the prosecution. he seems very solid on the stand. he certainly seems like he doesn't have any ax to grind with donald trump. >> reporter: on the stand, pecker said trump called him about another story he wanted kept quiet. that of former "playboy" model karen mcdougal, who claimed to have had a 10-month-long affair with trump in 2006, which he denies. >> after we had been intimate, he tried to pay me, and i actually did not take that. >> reporter: four days before the 2016 election, "the wall street journal" reported that american media, which owned the "enquirer" at the time, had paid mcdougal $150,000 for the rights to her story, which was never published. in the gag order hearing, the prosecution argued that trump should be held in contempt for all of his scathing commentary about this case. trump's lawyer, todd blanche, said his client's being careful with his words. to that, the judge said, "that's just not credible." maurice. >> robert costa, thank you. >>> now to those escalating clashes and t
trump. >> david pecker is a very strong witness for the prosecution. he seems very solid on the stand. he certainly seems like he doesn't have any ax to grind with donald trump. >> reporter: on the stand, pecker said trump called him about another story he wanted kept quiet. that of former "playboy" model karen mcdougal, who claimed to have had a 10-month-long affair with trump in 2006, which he denies. >> after we had been intimate, he tried to pay me, and i...
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. >> david pecker. the first witness in the new york case. >> all right, good morning, everybody. welcome to "morning joe." it's wednesday, april 24th. along with willie and me we have a member of the "the new york times" editorial board maya and sam stein. our top story has to do with pecker. >> i think you're enjoying saying his name. testimony in donald trump's hush money criminal trial is scheduled to resume tomorrow after several key developments in court yesterday. first, the judge held a hearing at the start of tuesday's proceedings on whether the former president had violated his gag order. prosecutors have asked the judge to fine him $1,000 for each violation. trump's attorney said he hasn't violated the order. he was, quote, being careful about complying with the order. but the judge expressed extreme frustration with that argument, telling his attorney saying, quote, losing all credibility with the court. any violation of the gag order in articles he repost to social media is unintentional. >
. >> david pecker. the first witness in the new york case. >> all right, good morning, everybody. welcome to "morning joe." it's wednesday, april 24th. along with willie and me we have a member of the "the new york times" editorial board maya and sam stein. our top story has to do with pecker. >> i think you're enjoying saying his name. testimony in donald trump's hush money criminal trial is scheduled to resume tomorrow after several key developments in...
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your thoughts about the progress the prosecution made with david pecker specific statement that trump wanted these stories killed solely for the purpose of helping his campaign. that's what they really need to show to essentially prove up his case that he falsified business records in order to promote some sort of election fraud yesterday in the court hearing as well. >> couple things they point out there were some stories that he wanted to kill, stormy daniels, the macdougall story as well as this fake story about him having a kid with somebody -- some hispanic woman turns out hispanic woman totally false i don't want to pay that shows what you do when people come out and make accusations the fact that it's true or not does not matter. will that hurt me personally? will that putter me professionally? i have got to get rid of this story. >> absolutely. the underlying falsity or truth of the story is not what is at issue. it whether you chose to do it to to protect your reputation and businesses to incidentally help your campaign. that's whereby the crux of this case lies is what was t
your thoughts about the progress the prosecution made with david pecker specific statement that trump wanted these stories killed solely for the purpose of helping his campaign. that's what they really need to show to essentially prove up his case that he falsified business records in order to promote some sort of election fraud yesterday in the court hearing as well. >> couple things they point out there were some stories that he wanted to kill, stormy daniels, the macdougall story as...
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david pecker, the head of the national enquirer, acknowledging under oath that they did this ron brownstein, how remarkable was this testimony? i mean, i have to say i mean, we've known about this phenomenon, but right here it laid out in court is still, is still striking. i mean, we don't know what the impact of this trial ultimately is going to be on donald trump. i was struck there was a paul made about two weeks ago now, api national thing research center found that voters were less likely to view this as serious than the other cases they were less likely to believe he committed a crime and then the other big case like election interference, which is going to turn that supreme court hearing tomorrow. but the surprising thing about this poll was even though they thought it was less likely, he can committed a crime, the share of people who said that he would be unfit to be president if convicted was roughly the same as in the other cases that interest that suggests there is a threshold like voters are going to have if he is convicted ultimately, which is not guaranteed voters are going to
david pecker, the head of the national enquirer, acknowledging under oath that they did this ron brownstein, how remarkable was this testimony? i mean, i have to say i mean, we've known about this phenomenon, but right here it laid out in court is still, is still striking. i mean, we don't know what the impact of this trial ultimately is going to be on donald trump. i was struck there was a paul made about two weeks ago now, api national thing research center found that voters were less likely...
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trump, what do you think of david pecker? >> reporter: pecker describing a meeting at trump tower in 2015 with mr. trump and his former fixer michael cohen, where pecker says he agreed to serve as the eyes and ears for rumors that could hurt mr. trump, adding, "what i would do is publish positive stories about trump and publish negative stories about his opponents." the prosecution then showing the jury a series of glowing headlines about then candidate trump and derogatory ones making baseless claims about mr. trump's republican opponents, including ted cruz. pecker admitting today "the enquirer" made up a story linking cruz's father to the man who assassinated jfk. pecker also testifying his company paid a doorman $30,000 for a completely untrue story about mr. trump fathering a child with his housekeeper so the doorman couldn't take the story elsewhere, trying to save mr. trump and the campaign the potential embarrassment. the day began with the judge taking the defense team to task over mr. trump's posts on social media t
trump, what do you think of david pecker? >> reporter: pecker describing a meeting at trump tower in 2015 with mr. trump and his former fixer michael cohen, where pecker says he agreed to serve as the eyes and ears for rumors that could hurt mr. trump, adding, "what i would do is publish positive stories about trump and publish negative stories about his opponents." the prosecution then showing the jury a series of glowing headlines about then candidate trump and derogatory ones...
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david pecker is who he is. he has no problems saying that he was engaged in checkbook journalism, and, yes, he was publishing some outrageous stories, you know, and negative stories and untrue stories. so that's what he did in charge of the company that was the parent company of the national enquirer. what you want to do is plant reasonable doubt in jurors mind and distance donald trump away from pecker and cohen. it's going to be hard because pecker did testify he's known donald trump for years, and he knew him to be detailed oriented and almost a micromanager. that's hard to distance someone. if you're a micromanager and you're detail oriented, it's hard to say you are hands off. so you can expect them to do that. you can also expect them to try with mr. pecker to talk about other stories, negative stories and falsehoods that were published not at the behest of donald trump but had nothing to do with donald trump. he was in charge of the company for years. >> yeah, i was just going to say the simplest way to
david pecker is who he is. he has no problems saying that he was engaged in checkbook journalism, and, yes, he was publishing some outrageous stories, you know, and negative stories and untrue stories. so that's what he did in charge of the company that was the parent company of the national enquirer. what you want to do is plant reasonable doubt in jurors mind and distance donald trump away from pecker and cohen. it's going to be hard because pecker did testify he's known donald trump for...
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you have david pecker coming in to testify, lighthearted in the way he was testifying to the jury. there, and setting the stage or the jury prosecution asking those foundational questions, you're getting an idea of the framework of what was going on during the campaign. and donald trump and his fixtures around him, making sure that those stories were killed before they reach the public years. and i think that's going to build on the prosecution case, but also we're going to see he had the defense handle this on cross-examination because david pecker is a witness who was sort of complicit in this. he's turned state's witness, and i think that's going to be some mo for the defense to cross-examine him about his testimony. >> all right. in ron, sorry for us on all of this, imran, thanks for much for being with us this morning. i really appreciate your time thanks for adding are coming up next here. a new organization aimed at fighting disinformation. >> we're going to be joined by the former homeland security official who is back in the public eye to lead it plus the box trying to hol
you have david pecker coming in to testify, lighthearted in the way he was testifying to the jury. there, and setting the stage or the jury prosecution asking those foundational questions, you're getting an idea of the framework of what was going on during the campaign. and donald trump and his fixtures around him, making sure that those stories were killed before they reach the public years. and i think that's going to build on the prosecution case, but also we're going to see he had the...