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>> and i was becoming increasingly concerned that we were damaging -- we were damaging his legacy. >> what did the president say in response to what you just described? >> he said something along the lines of, you know, nobody will care about my legacy if i lose. so that won't matter. >> hope hicks revealing that conversation to the january 6th committee. now she has a chance to add to trump's corrupt legacy. testifying today in his criminal trial in new york. also tonight, the political fallout from the campus protests and why it's time to start focusing again on what's actually happening in gaza. and kristi noem would prefer to let sleeping dogs lie. but sadly, she killed the dog, and now a bunch of lies are

being exposed in nome's new book. >> we begin tonight with a blast from donald trump's past. hope hicks. the former greenwich, connecticut, model turned white house adviser. hicks, who has not seen trump in nearly two years since she testified about the insurrection her former boss incited, acknowledged that she was nervous and was visibly so. and for good reason. it's the first time the outside world got a window into her and trump's intimate working relationship. she, as the campaign press secretary, was a key player in the 2016 trump campaign and ventual administration. unlike rhona graff, trump's personal secretary who testified last week, hope hicks paid for her own lawyers. which might explain why she seemed free to detail at great length the inner workings of the 2016 campaign, who had access to

trump, what kind of micromanager trump was, and what was happening in the final months that could possibly motivate the campaign to hide any salacious stories about trump cheating on his third wife while she was pregnant. key there is the "access hollywood" tape. before prosecutors got to the infamous grab them tape, hicks explained what she did for trump and how she and mr. trump spoke every day. she also testified that he was very involved in the media strategy, according to hope, he knew what he wanted to say and how he wanted to say it. we were just following his lead. she went on to say that she would run statements by trump, especially if they were about him. and this is important because the prosecution is having one of trump's closest aides tell the jury that basically nothing happened in the campaign without trump's approval. nothing. and then came this october 7th bombshell. >> i have to use tic tacs just

in case i start kissing her. i'm automatically attracted to beautiful. like a magnet. and when you're a star, they let you do it. you can do anything. grab them by the [ bleep ]. you can do anything. >> prosecutor matthew colangelo asked hicks if trump was upset about the release of the tape. hicks testified that there was a sense that it was concerning and that she knew it was going to be a massive story. adding, there was consensus among us all that the tape was damaging and that this was going to be a crisis. this triggered the campaign to descend into full damage control mode, only a few days before the second presidential debate with hillary clinton. the situation escalated when weeks later the "wall street journal" reached out to the campaign about an article they were publishing about a payment to an alleged mistress, karen mcdougal, and a casual fling, stormy daniels. trump sat expressionless at the defendant's table during hicks'

testimony, watching her on one of the monitors in the courtroom, even though she was just a few feet away from him. colangelo asked hicks if trump had any concerns about how these stories could affect his standing with voters. hicks said yes. he asked what the response to the "wall street journal" article was, and she testified trump saw it as an issue for the campaign, telling colangelo, quote, trump was concerned about the story. he was concerned how it would be viewed by his wife and he wanted me to make sure newspapers weren't delivered to their residence that morning. everything we talked about was whether or not there was an impact on the campaign. trump wanted to know how is it playing, and to her, that meant how is it playing with voters. she also explained that jared kushner, who was very close to rupert murdoch and working on the campaign, tried to kill the story. it didn't work. once elected, it continued to be a source of concern for the then-president and hicks who was now the director of strategic

communication for his administration. the prosecution was able to get her to confirm trump admitted to her while they were in the oval office that michael cohen did a good thing for the campaign by paying stormy daniels. colangelo asked hicks to describe what her former boss told her in the conversation about cohen in february of 2018. which was right after cohen told "the new york times" that he had paid the $130,000 out of his own pocket. hicks said trump told her that cohen said he felt like it was his job to protect him, and that's what he was doing. and he did it out of the kindness of his own heart and he never told anybody about it. in response to a prosecution follow-up hicks conceded such an act would be out of character for michael. i didn't know michael to be an especially charitable person or selfless person. he's the kind of person who seeks credit. hicks said trump believed the decision to bury the story

before the election was prudent at the time. mr. trump's opinion was it was better to deal with it now and would have been bad to have the story come out before the election. as trump's attorney began to cross-examine her, hicks began to cry. she appeared to start crying when bove brought up the fact that the trump family gave her work opportunities. once she gathered herself, she testified that trump didn't want his family to be embarrassed by anything that happened during the campaign. joining me now is lisa reuben, msnbc legal correspondent and george conway, conservative attorney and contributing writer for the atlantic. tell me what i missed in that rundown, lisa. what else happened today with hope hicks. >> an incredibly important witness, joy. i think part of what she did was just situate us into how much the campaign was in a period of full scale meltdown from the moment she got an email from the

"wall street journal" explaining -- i'm sorry, from the moment she got an email from "the washington post" explaining they were about to publish the "access hollywood" tape until the election itself. it was accusation upon accusation upon accusation, and the "access hollywood" tape was closely followed by more women coming out of the woodwork who were neither karen mcdougal or stormy daniels but had claims against then candidate trump. she sort of took us through what it was like to be crisscrossing the country with donald trump at the same time these stories have landed in her inbox, when "the washington post" first contacted her about "access hollywood," she said she was in her trump tower office, immediately went upstairs to the 25th floor, the executive floor, where donald trump was preparing for his debate with hillary clinton, surrounded by the senior leadership of the campaign, and similarly, when the "wall street journal" notified her about the stormy daniels and karen mcdougal story that came out on november 4th, where was she?

she was on the tarmac in ohio as trump was about to go out and have a rally in an airplane hangar. all the stress of that period and how much trump was fighting to preserve his standing with voters came out today through hope hicks. she was the campaign witness that we knew would come at some point during this trial. and also, somebody who personally seemed to have been deceived by and disappointed by donald trump time and time again, which i think contributed to the breakdown we saw on the stand. >> george conway, having worked on a couple campaigns in the press office, the calls come to you. this is an interesting part of the testimony today. she's asked when did you first hear the name karen mcdougal, in what context. i received a call from "the washington post." who was the reporter, and had you heard of someone named stormy daniels? i heard it one other time before that. she's getting this call as the top press flack in the trump

campaign, which has got to freak her out. the date is significant. november 4, 2016, is four days before the election. you now have a story coming out that would confirm a salacious story about donald trump's relationships with two women, one of whom was stormy daniels and one karen mcdougal but in the context of all these other women backing up the "access hollywood" tape that came out in october '16 which she also had to deal with, and he's running against a woman. in an election in which he is being portrayed as a misogynist, and he's been a misogynist even to the woman he's running against. that is context that's important, right? the timing is that if the election was literally happening around the corner. you were in court today. what did you see? >> i wasn't actually in court today. i was in court tuesday. i will say it was vitally important testimony. because i mean, it shows what the motivation was. and you know, there's always this talk every four years about

will there be an october surprise? you don't know what it is because it's a surprise. here, we already knew what it could be, and people were worried, like, will there be any more? will any more come out? and it's just, i mean, as hicks testified today, the initial release of the -- the initial trigger of the scandal which was the "access hollywood" tape basically produced three or four days of nonstop coverage of trump and women and women coming out to talk about him. and you know, it even eclipsed the news of a category-4 or category-5 hurricane or something. it was -- those were just remarkable times. i cannot -- it's impossible to imagine that the concern wasn't enormous at another story coming out because his campaign seemed to be teetering on the edge after the "access hollywood" tape. >> yeah, these are some of the tweets from donald trump in

october 2016, after the "access hollywood" tape. people may forget, everything about trump is in a memory hole. here's some of his tweets, the foul-mouthed senator john mccain begged for my support in his primary. he won and dropped me over locker room remarks. nothing ever happened with any of these women. totally made up nonsense. polls close, but you can believe i lost large numbers of women voters based on made-up events that never happened. can't believe these totally phony stories. republican reactions, paul ryan was sickened. mitch mcconnell called the remarks repugnant. trumps remarks demean our wives and daughters. reince priebus condemned trump. no woman should ever be described in these terms. three dozen republicans have called for trump to drop out. the urgency is important because we're not talking about donald trump in a vacuum, and all the stuff about worrying about his wife feels like it's overwhelmed by this. was this brought up in court,

the scramble happening in the final week? >> absolutely. i want to say something about the concern about the family versus the concern about the campaign, because i don't think it's an either/or. it can be a both/and, so long as prosecutos convince the jury that the preeminent concern was the campaign first and then the effect on his family. i don't think hope hicks took away from that. when she said that trump, for example, the night of november 4th as they're driving back, says to her i want to make sure the "wall street journal" doesn't show up on my doorstep tomorrow, that doesn't undermine the fact that his concern was first and foremost the campaign as demonstrated by that conversation they have in march of 2018 when he tries to spin her on michael cohen's own coming forward in "the new york times" and says, michael cohen did this because he really wanted to protect me against false accusations. he did this out of the goodness of his heart, which she said she knew at the time was just not true. it didn't ring true to her own

experience. when trump is musing aloud, would it have been better if this had come out at the time or now, no, it would have been bad if it came out before the election. that is proof positive that for trump, the number one concern was improving his chances at electoral victory, not preserving her wife's feelings. to the extent it was about his wife, it was to keep her within the camp of people helping him win that election. so again, not an either/or but maybe a both/and so long as one ranks above the other. >> let's talk about michael cohen. here's a call between him and keith davidson, the lawyer for stormy daniels and karen mcdougal talking about the stormy settlement. >> nobody is thinking about michael. you understand? and despite what, for example, what the earlier conversation, you know, and who else would do that for somebody? who else?

>> yeah. >> i did. because i care about the guy. >> right. >> i wasn't going to play penny wise pound foolish. i can't tell you how many times he said to me, i hate the fact that we did it. and my comment to him was, but every person that you have spoken to told you it was the right move. >> and george, there was another time that davidson recalled a call with cohen where he said that cohen sounded despondent and depressed saying something to the effect, can you f'ing believe i'm not going to washington. i have saved that guy so many times. i mean, this is a guy who they're trying to impeach in advance of him doing his testimony. but i cannot emphasize enough, george, that you heard him saying how passionately he was invested in committing a crime

that he actually went to jail for. it's the same crime that we're adjudicating in this case. it's just that michael cohen already went to prison for it, and donald trump is now on trial for being the partner with him in this crime. so every time people say, well, no one is going to believe michael cohen, he's a felon. he's a felon because of that. he did that. >> i'll raise you one on that, because i think that trump defense and the trump campaign and donald trump are making a huge mistake in going after michael cohen the way they have. obviously, they feel the need to. it fills an emotional need for donald trump, but it does not really help him. because the fact of the matter is, what he was doing that he now fully admits and very consistently and very consistent terms was wrong, michael, you know, michael did that for donald trump. he did that for the benefit of and at the direction of donald trump. and every bit of testimony that

has come out shows that michael cohen has come clean and is telling the truth about that. they're going to go after them, say well, you submitted this form, whatever, they're going to go through all sorts of stuff. it's like, so what, tell me what it is that michael is lying about on this witness stand that relates to this case? and they got nothing. because he's been corroborated by pecker, corroborated by his banker, corroborated by the texts. he's been corroborated by the tapes he recorded of donald trump. he's been corroborated by hope hicks and there's been stuff in there that people didn't like dealing with michael. you know, look, i have known michael since 2006. he's a hard driving, loud guy. a new yorker, and he was like a bull in a china shop. or a dog with a bone. pick your metaphor. and when he goes in a certain direction, you know, he doesn't let anything get in his way.

and he did that for donald trump because that's what he was loyal to donald trump, and he got screwed for it. and now he's owned up to it. and i think, you know, if michael cohen goes on that wince stand and just, you know, chills and just sort of plays it straight and doesn't let them get on his nerves, the defense, which is going to be their tactic. their tactic is going to be what everyone else's tacting to donald trump is, provoke him. i don't think he's going to be provoked because he has the truth on his side. i think a lot of people are going to be surprised at how good a witness michael was, because he was a great witness out on capitol hill, and he was a good witness, judge engoron said he told the truth in the civil trial. i think that they -- i think the trump people should actually be pretty terrified of michael cohen. this is michael cohen's chance to set it all straight. to set it all straight with donald trump and the way he does that is just by going with the

flow, you know, admitting the stuff he did wrong, and just sticking to the facts. he's a smart enough guy that he's going to do that. i think people are going to be surprised by that. >> i volunteer to be in the courtroom that day because donald trump looked at the screen instead of looking at hope hicks. i want to see if he's willing to man up and look michael cohen in the eye. lisa and george are sticking with us for much more on the damnic testimony today. "the reidout" continues after this. ut" continues after this and sweat-proof. they're leakproof underwear, from knix. comfy & confident protection that feel just like normal. with so many styles and colors to choose from, switching is easy at knix.com

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back with me, lisa reuben and george conway. let's talk about some of the demeanor in the courtroom. according to lawrence o'donnell, when hope hicks left for the lunch break and passed donald trump down that long aisle in the middle, neither she nor trump attempted to acknowledge each other or make eye contact. there's reporting going back a ways that the relationship soured since 2022, because she came back in 2020, stayed until the insurrection when text messages emerged in the house investigation into his efforts to stay in power, the messages showed she had been critical of him in trying to overthrow the government. does that matter? because what they have established here, she busts out crying when the defense talks to her about her relationship with trump. it seems to me the closeness between the two of them is going to be hard for the defense to undo. >> the defense had to

recalculate their strategy with her once she dit start crying. what might have been intended as a more difficult cross became a very mild mannered and short one after that because they didn't want to be the people who provoked her to be even more emotional after she had very credibly told some other stories. part of what made her credible, joy, is even though she and donald trump weren't acknowledging each other in the present, she clearly still has residual past affection for him that she is trying to reconcile with her experiences of him. she talked about, for example, how deeply involved he was in his communication strategy and that they were all following his lead. but the reason she felt they were following his lead is because, as she described him, he was sort of a marketing and media mastermind who knew so much, they couldn't help but fall into line. she was very complimentary of how respectful he was of her. she had a lot of nice things to

say about him, even though the stories that she told based on her recollections will do a lot of damage to him overall in this case. so i think the interaction was a complicated one for her and an emotional one because on one hand, this is a hope hicks who hasn't spoken to the former president since the summer of 2022 before she testified to the january 6th committee. and the things she told that committee were jaw dropping. she basically said she had told the former president she didn't believe in his claims of election fraud, that they had sort of agreed to disagree, but there was really nothing more for them to say to each other and nothing more for her to do in the white house. she didn't even show up to work on january 6th. that distance is really there, and yet her memory of what was between the two of them and how that accompanied both of their meteoric rises in american politics was very much on her mind today. >> all of his cases, everyone testifying against him, they're all his people. they're all republicans, all his own people.

george, let me play you something that was unusual and you would know this better than i would that donald trump did on october 7th, 20 skaep. here's the tape. >> i have never said i'm a perfect person, nor pretended to be someone that i'm not. i have said and done things i regret, and the words released today on this more than a decade-old video are one of them. anyone who knows me knows these words don't reflect who i am. i said it. i was wrong. and i apologize. >> george conway, donald trump has never apologized. he's been on tv since most of my life. he's never done that. but he did it not because he was afraid melania would be upset. he did it for the campaign. >> absolutely. you never heard him say that again. he doesn't apologize for anything. that was how bad this was, that he actually made a public apology and admitted wrong. he never does that. i mean, he's been asked, do you

ask for forgiveness from jesus christ. no, why would i do that? then, this is something i can't believe that my brain still remembers but in december, he actually told the united states senator, this was reported by maggie haberman of "the new york times," that the "access hollywood" tape, we think that was faked. he actually said that. i mean, you know, that was absolutely 100% fake remorse. it's the one time, you know, i have written about him being a narcissistic sociopath who has never shown any remorse. when i wrote that article about five years ago, this was the only time i ever found any evidence that he apologized or said he felt bad about something he had done. and he didn't mean it. >> yeah. and the "access hollywood" tape was made contemporaneously to the time he was messing around with stormy daniels and karen mcdougal. last question to you, lisa. the judge, judge merchan is pretty dope.

i like him. his voice is soothing and he's very firm in responding to things whether they happen in his courtroom or not. donald trump went out and did a thing where heed i'm not allowed to testify because i'm under a gag order. what did the judge do today to say that ain't true? >> the judge started today, joy, by very calmly addressing trump, almost as if he was a misinformed child, as opposed to a petulant defendant. and essentially said to him, sir, i think you might be under some misimpressions with respect to my gag order. it absolutely has no affect on your ability to testify. it only addressed extra judicial statements, meaning out of court. so you have a constitutional right to testify in this courtroom in your own defense if you so choose, along with a constitutional right not to testify if you so choose. and i just wanted to make that perfectly clear to you, sir. and doing that, he is showing donald trump he's watching. >> oh, lord, let him testify, please. i pray. please.

>> same. same. we all are in agreeance. let's agree on that. lisa reuben and george conway, testify, donald. thank you very much. >> don't be scared. >> do it. coming up next, the political fallout as pro-palestinian campus protests continue and the situation in gaza continues to worsen. we'll be right back.

campus protests continue over israeli military responses in gaza. while some have taken a disturbing turn such as encounter at university of mississippi between protesters and counterprotesters. >> did you catch the monkey sounds there? i did. this video was posted by mike collins, a republican congressman from georgia with the words, ole miss taking care of business. using the nickname for the university derived from the plantation days of mississippi. it's giving confederacy, and it wasn't the only one. governor tate reeves also posted a video showing counterprotesters singing the star-spangled banners in front of pro-palestinian protesters.

♪♪ >> surprised they weren't singing dixie instead. governor reeves praised the counterprotests writing, watch with sound. warms my heart. i love mississippi. remember, reeves is the same republican politician who proclaimed april to be confederate heritage month. he also signed a bill limiting how race can be discussed in mississippi classrooms. hmm, warms his little heart. meanwhile, protests dominated the news this week at multiple campuses but as senator bernie sanders pointed out, the american college campus is not where our focus should be. >> it is time to not simply worry about the violence we are

seeing on american college campuses but to focus on the unprecedented violence we are seeing in gaza. i suggest to cnn and maybe some of my colleagues here, maybe take your cameras just for a moment off columbia and off of ucla. maybe go to gaza. and take your camera and show us the emaciated children who are dying of malnutrition because of netanyahu's policies. >> joining me now is dean obeidallah, host of the dean obeidallah show, and fernand amandi, msnbc political analyst and pollster. dean, he makes an excellent point. he was on your show, bernie sanders, senator sanders recently, making that same point. >> very much so. the issue is what's happening in gaza. what's happening there is what's making the students protest. interfaith, multiracial

coalition of people who are outraged by seeing the suffering in gaza. today, 88 members of the house, calling out what they said was intentional deprivation of humanitarian aid by the netanyahu administration to people in gaza. this is unprecedented. the u.n. has never seen this much devastation to homes and residential places since world war ii. it is atrocious, it is international law violation. i'm glad senator sanders is bringing it up. that should be the focus, what's going on in gaza. >> absolutely. at the same time, i think we have to have a dual lens, because we have an election coming up in which i think there's a lot of concern this could be a factor in the way that a lot of young people vote. you know, i think a lot of people in that age group are really agry about this and they're seeing things like people chanting monkey sounds at a black pro-palestinian protesting and being praised by a republican congressman for it

in mississippi. pure, blatant racism. you're seeing things like laurent boebert, one of the dumbest members of congress, ripping down a palestinian flag, taking it upon herself to become a part of it. it's hard to extricate it from our own politics. i want you to listen to a group of independent wisconsin voters talking about this very thing. >> i don't think biden is doing a great job. i don't think trump would do a better job. as it stands, i can't see it changing how i vote. >> neither of them are going to do a better job than what they're doing now. it's not going to impact who i vote -- which way i vote. they're going to do the same or worse. >> and these are all politically independent college students at the university of wisconsin. they're all concerned or critical about the war. they agree it's a top issue but said the issues driving their votes, they said neither were doing a good job on gaza but they're driven by student loans, marijuana rescheduling and a

tiktok ban. does that ring true to you as a pollster? >> absolutely, joy. certainly resonates with what i'm seeing in the other polling. look, there is an intense focus on this issue globally and nationally, as there should be amongst many taking place in the country. but the idea this is the animating issue for all young people is just simply not aligned with what we're seeing in the polling. i actually think president biden has done as good a job as possible in trying to act as the honest broker in this case. he has called out the excesses of the netanyahu government when they have engaged in that. he is at the same time committed to supporting our ally in the region in israel and through the efforts of him and the democratic caucus, has been able to now deliver humanitarian aid to gaza that had been held up by the republican stranglehold we saw in the house. when you look at the management and the handle of the issue and the protests themselves that are

being hijacked in some cases on the other side for political reasons, i think you have to give the president credit for keeping a very difficult and sensitive situation moving in a positive forward direction. as senator sanders said earlier, the focus should be on resolving the conflict in the region, not necessarily all of this drama around the college campuses. >> do you agree, dean? we might have a little disagreement. >> look, i think it depends who you speak to. the college democrats of america put out a statement yesterday. they're part of the dnc. they're the college democrats. they criticize president biden for what they call a bear hug to netanyahu. they say they denounce october 7th terrorist attack. they call for the hostages to be released. they said democrats not speaking up for palestinian state, not working harder for a cease-fire is causing disillusionment among college democrats who are active. there's a subset and their

statement is we want president biden to win, and he's missing on this issue. that's the point of the younger people. president biden, difficult issue. trying to make it work. it's just not enough yet. he has more levers to press netanyahu and he hasn't used all of them. >> really quick. >> very quick. yeah. >> really quick, i have heard the words cease-fire multiple times out of the mouth of president of the united states, and the one person pushing for a two-state solution is the president of the united states. credit where credit is due. a thorny issue. that's why thank god he is the president, and he's doing the best i think he can. the polls show that in other areas. a majority of bipartisan support say the college protests can't go into a violent realm. >> we're going to have you come back and debate this more. don't go anywhere. dean and fernand are sticking with us because we have to discuss -- this is called a turn, y'all, the latest kristi

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the dakota scout reporting on anecdotes in the book claiming she met north korean dictator kim jong-un when she was in congress and stared him down and canceled a meeting last year with french president emmanuel macron. macron's office said no meeting was ever scheduled. noem's spokesperson admitted those things never happened and said future editions will be corrected. meanwhile, politico reported in addition to the kim jong-un bit, she says nikki haley threatened her in a phone call, which a spokeswoman for haley called just plain weird. apparently the only part of noem's book that is true is her shooting her puppy for misbehaving because she keeps doubling down on that one. even mitt romney who put his dog on a carrier on the roof of his car told me don't bring me into this. he said i didn't shoot my dog. i love my dog and my dog loved me. back with me, dean obeidallah

and fernand amandi. i'm giving you each a governor. you inherit, dean, kristi noem. thoughts. >> unbelievable. even dick cheney apologized for shooting his friend. kristi noem is doubling and tripling down on shooting a dog. and she shot a goat the same day. she said it. she said she shot her dog and shot that and then said in the book, the construction workers were looking at her and she stared them down. it was like a tony soprano hit. she's making sarah palin look better. i can see russia from my house. no, you can't. she's a cruel liar. she should be the vp, the nominee, forget vp. that's presidential material. >> they tried to hang mike pence. i have a governor for you, too. you know it's your governor, fernand. i can't help it. your governor, why is he banning -- let me tell you what

he's done. he's signed a ban of lab grown meat in florida. they called the ad, the article meat head, with usual efficiency, it commits the most loathsome elements of the new right politics that desantis has embraced. it panders to the paranoia that animates so much of the gop's base. it would be bad enough if the fake meat ban -- apparently he's doing it for big farm. >> i love it for the simple reason it's clear to me with this idiocy that ron desantis has not learned the lesson of his disastrous 2024 presidential campaign. he's going to keep doing these idiotic culture wars that got him exactlyexactly zero wins in primary. the more the meat had the merrier when it comes to these

policies that americans are laughing at and people around the world are laughing at governor meatball four. >> there is a new pew research poll showing eligible latino voters are, biden is doing better with them. going to you, you are our data guy. in arizona and all of these other states, the share of latino voters in key swing states with the biden is starting to go up. do you see him improving with these voters? what is the percentage in these states? >> 52-44 is a nightmare number for me. i remember when barack obama got 71% and hillary clinton got 68 just a couple of years later. i do think those hispanic voters will come back home, especially those that we call the lower information voters. those that really aren't engaged in the day-to-day of politics. as the stories gets close to election day and they are reminded that the crazy man is

on the ballot he wants to set up deportation camps and who is consulting his fans across the fruited plain, i think they will come back home and i think you see joe biden not only when it but when close to the type of support he got in 2020. >> one last one for you. here is a picture of katie hobbs, governor of arizona, signing the repeal of the 1864 abortion ban. republicans were still out there taking this was not god's will. it is still going to be in effect for 90 days. there's a lot of intricacies in arizona law. it has to be 90 days after the end of the session. how important will abortion be in this race ? >> vitally important. but i think some people are missing, arizona, 99% of republicans in the senate and the state house voted against repealing it, just so everyone understands. they want a total abortion ban. they want to go back to 1864, before there was a civil rights act, before a woman could vote. this wasn't bipartisan in the true sense. it was like to republicans and 3

in the other chamber. they have this arizona law, total ban of abortion, women forced against their will to carry a fetus to term, which i call barbaric. that is the gop platform, it is barbarism. >> dean obeidallah, fernand amandi, thank you both very much. we are changing it up a little bit. we have a special edition of who won the week. i am letting my friends go. we will not let them play but i will explain to you why when i come right back. right back.

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those who do nothing are inviting shame as well as violence. those who act boldly are recognizing right as well as a reality. >> hours after jfk televised address to the nation on civil rights, the naacp first field secretary in the state of mississippi, 37-year-old medgar evers was shot in the back as he stood in the driveway of his jackson, mississippi home. he had gained the ire of whites a premises for his activism and public investigations and the launching of 14-year-old emmett till. an army veteran and civil rights icon, medgar evers was buried with full military honors in front of 3000 people at arlington national cemetery. the domestic terrorism that took his life would, in many ways, go on to define the era. the murders of dr. martin luther king jr., who you see in the position, jfk, malcolm x,

and others were yet to come. it wasn't until 1994, more than 30 years after his assassination, in front of a third jury, that long time clan member byron beckwith was convicted for medgar evers murder. at the white house, president biden awarded the presidential medal of freedom, the highest civilian honor to 19 people, including civil rights icons like opal lee, the grandmother of juneteenth, judy shepard, and lgbt rights activists, clarence jones, who helped draft the "i have a dream" speech and representative jim clyburn of south carolina. nancy pelosi, the first woman to serve as speaker of the house was also honored. most notably for me, given that i did write a book about him, medgar evers, who was honored posthumously. >> today, we honor medgar evers and his families pain and purpose . an army veteran who

worked tirelessly to end segregation in mississippi, to deliver the promise of america to all americans. a patriot gunned down by the poison of what is the premise he put his spirit indoors. >> with 2891-year-old wife and partner in activism unable to make the trip to the capitol, the posthumous award was accepted by their daughter. medgar evers, for obvious reasons, is six this week's winner of the one the week. wait, there is more. my pal and colleague rachel maddow and i did a great discussion about medgar evers and you can see all of it in a very special program . join reed and rachel maddow live at the apollo, tomorrow night at 9:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. be sure to join us. that is tonight's the reidout. all in with chris hayes starts now. >> tonight on all in. >> hope hicks is a tremendously talentrs