resonate with the voters. i don't actually know if it would matter or help that much, but you can see the logic there. >> just a rerefresher trump has called rubio a total lightweight with a little mouth, he's a nasty guy, he's worse than ted cruz in being a liar. and of course he thinks he's little. mckay coppens, myself, thank you for going through this strange game of pick a trump winning mate with me. appreciate your time and your speculation. that is our show for tonight. and a reminder you can listen to every single episode of alex wagner tonight as a podcast for free. you can scan the qr code on your screen to listen on the go or search for alex wagner tonight wherever you get your podcasts. "way too early" with jonathan lemire is coming up next. we are not an authoritarian nation where we silence people or squash dissent.

american people are heard. in fact, peaceful protest is in the best tradition of how americans respond to consequential issues. but -- but neither are we a lawless country. we're a civil society and order must prevail. >> that was president biden addressing the protests on college campus for the first time. we'll have more on his message and the latest on the demonstrations across the country. plus we'll go through the ongoing cease-fire negotiations between israel and hamas, which appear to be moving on trump's hush money trial. we'll recap the key moments in court yesterday. all right, good morning. welcome to "way too early" on this friday, may 3rd. this friday, congratulations, we

made it. i'm sam stein in for jonathan lemire. and we'll begin this morning with order being restored to ucla's campus. police arrested more than 200 protesters from an encampment. officers in riot gear swarmed a university early yesterday morning confronting protesters and dismantling the eencampment. the clash lasted several hours. police had to launch flares to try to disperse the large crowd. according to the chancellor of the ucla about 300 people did leave voluntarily, but look at those images. wow. the university called the police early in the week after the protests turned violent. fights erupted between pro-palestinian demonstrators and israeli supporters. ucla then declared the encampment, quote, illegal. the chancellor explains the decision in a statement yesterday writing, quote, while many of the protesters at the encampment remain peaceful, ultimately the site became a focal point for serious violence as well as huge disruption to

our campus. meanwhile, president biden has broken his silence on the unrest at these college campuses. yesterday in an unscheduled address delivered from the white house, the president condemned the violence and the anti-semitism. >> violent protests is not protected. peaceful protest is. it's against the law when violence occurs. destroying property is not a peaceful protest. it's against the law. vandalism, trespassing, breaking window, shutting down campuses, forcing the cancellation of classes and graduations, none of this is a peaceful protest. threatening people, intimidating people, instilling fear in people is not a peaceful protest. it's against the law. dissent is essential to democracy, but dissent must never lead to disorder or denoinying the rights so students can finish their semester and college education. look, it's basically a matter of fairness. it's a matter of what's right.

there's a right to protest but not the right to cause chaos. let's be clear about this as well. there should be no place on any campus, no place in america for anti-semitism or threats of violence against jewish students. there is no place for hate speech or violence of any kind whether it's anti-semitism, islamaphobia or discrimination against arab americans or palestinian americans. it's simply wrong. there's no place in america. it's all wrong. it's un-american. >> now, while answering reporter questions after those remarks, the president rejected the idea of deploying the national guard to quell the unrest. he also said he will not change his policies in the middle east in response to those protests. president joe biden, however, is urging americans to take donald trump at his word after the presumptive 2024 republican nominee said this week that he'd

accept november's election results, quote, if everything is honest. then added, quote, if it's not, you have to fight for the right of the country. now, upon arriving in north carolina for a campaign event yesterday, biden had this to say about trump's latest remarks. >> mr. president, are you worried that trump says he won't accept the election results? >> listen to what he says. >> listen to what he says? what do you -- >> just listen to what he says. >> joining us now is politics editor for bloomberg, laura davidson. laura, thank you so much. let me ask you this. one, how concerned is the white house about the prospects of political violence happening again after this election if it doesn't go kruchl's way? and two, sort of a meta question here, how concerned is the white house that the american apublic has forgotten about the aftermath of the 2020 election

when donald trump also did not accept the results then and of course it led to what happened on january 6th? >> the answer to both questions is very concerning. one, donald trump twice this week has been asked the question will you accept the election results. and he said yes i'll accept them, but always equivocating, if there's no fraud -- and that's why you see the response from the biden white house we need to be preparing. you already see different states beefing up security around elections and to ward off any threat that could come. everyone remembers january 6th, but the american public you see sort of that fading as an issue, top of peoples minds when people are asked about trump, what they think about him. people seem to remember more about the economic times and less so focused on the democracy issues. you still see temocracy as one of the top issues people are voting on, but it doesn't rank anywhere near immigration or the

economy. >> immigration, health care, abortion, democracy. let's turn to the first part of the show we were talking about, the campus unrest. biden had not spoken in public except for a few stray remarks here and there. why did he decide to -- or what was it about what was happening in these visuals that compelled him to do what he did and come out and essentially forcefully condemn the idea of protests, violent protests, the right to protest. it was more or less a condemnation of those images we had seen the night before. >> as you noted biden had been silent until these unscheduled remarks yesterday where he came out and said, look, students have the right to protest if it's peaceful, if it crosses into vandalism, and hate speech, that crosses the line and not acceptable. the issue here the white house at their core and the campaign at their core don't see this as an issue going to hurt them in the fall. >> why not? >> really the issue is when you talk to them they say, look, it is a small minority, a very

vocal minority but a small minority of people who support this and sort of who biden and see it as a silent majority of people who may be concerned but don't want to see the social unrest around it. the other thing, too, people would vote on domestic policy not foreign policy. >> that might be a small minority i agree with them on that. but aren't they worried about the imeragery of this, the idea there's chaos on college campuses, that he's at the helm and things seem to be astray? >> this is something over the past couple of weeks as these encampments have grown, as the police response has gotten much stronger and the democratic convention in chicago, concerns about violence there have ticked up and become more of a concern they're trying to figure out how do we manage this. the hope of the white house is that the semester is about to end, the students are about to go home, and hopefully thissert of dies on the vine and not going to be the top of issue in

october. if. >> just get the kids home and it'll be dealt with, i guess. politics editor for bloomberg, laura davidson, thank you for coming in. really appreciate it. and still ahead the nation's top intelligence officers were on capitol hill yesterday to detail the biggest threats to america. we'll go through that testimony. and this fiery crash shutdown one of the country's busiest hiways yesterday. look at that. we'll have the latest for you and a check on the weather when we come right back. a check on t we come right back

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fire suppressing foam. now being diverted onto local roads and other interstates. >> an hour 40 minutes to get to work today. >> stop start, stop start. >> a section of i-5 will remain closed for several days in order for this bridge scorched by the flames to be demolished. gasoline fueled fires can get hot enough to deform even steel leading to bridge collapses like this in philadelphia last year. back in the tri-state drivers bracing for this travel headache to linger. >> that was nbc's emilie ikeda with our report. and i will say from personal experience having driven that section of the highway it's already a traffic nightmare, and i can't imagine how much worse it's going to get. everyone stay safe. still ahead we'll turn to sports. a heated nba rivalry from the '90s is about to be renewed.

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coast, 2:30 out west. i'm sam stein in for jonathan lemire. hours from now donald trump will return to a manhattan courtroom in this hush money trial after keith davidson, the former lawyer for stormy daniels and karen mcdougal, completed his testimony. nbc news senior legal analyst laura jarrett has the big take-aways from yesterday's proceedings. >> reporter: former president trump arriving at court watching his defense team go on offense, casting a key prosecution witness as out to extort him for money. the defense hoping to discredit keith davidson, the lawyer who negotiated pay offs for stormy daniels and karen mcdougal. both threatened to go public of stories of sex with mr. trump ahead of the 2016 election. mr. trump has denied the allegations of both women and denied any advance knowledge of the pay offs. his defense team suggesting davidson had a habit of shaking down lebties like charlie sheen for money. davidson saying he never

extorted anyone, testifying at length about negotiations with michael cohen, mr. trump's former attorney, but admitting he never met nor spoke to the former president. instead he dealt exclusively with cohen who he painted as desperate and respondent, that then president-elect trump would not make him attorney general or white house chief of staff describing a phone call he lamented, i can't believe i'm not going to washington. cohen saying he saved trump so many times you don't even know. davidson testifying about cohen, i thought he was going to kill himself. a helpful point for the defense as it tries to cast cohen as having an ax to grind against mr. trump. the former president is accused of illegally doctoring his internal records to disguise his repayments to cohen, making cohen's testimony critical for prosecutors who are now seeking additional fines against mr. trump saying he violated a gag order again by calling his former fixer a liar. while the defense argues the former president should be allowed to defend himself

against cohen's frequent criticism. >> i'm unconstitutionally gagged. he gagged me. i'm not supposed to be talking to you because he gagged me. >> nbc's laura jarrett reporting. and joining us now is nbc legal analyst catherine christian. thank you so much for joining us. let's start with keith davidson's testimony. defense tried to paint him as an extortionist, participating in a sleazily shakedown of donald trump, asking for big bucks. let me ask you, do you think they were successful? and if so what impact do you think his testimony will have? >> they were successful and extortion is a crime and he would have been convicted of that. they were successful in painting him as a sleazy lawyer but more important for the defense he

never dealt directly with donald trump, he always dealt with michael cohen. they also were successful in having davidson question the credibility of cohen and also put in the jurors mind they already knew this from opening statements in vor dire but even more michael cohen has an axe to grind, that he was so upset donald trump didn't take him to the white house. witness after witness the prosecution are not going to wrap their arms around michael cohen and say he's a great guy. their going to say you can believe him because other witnesses have corroborated him. other witnesses have corroborated that he was the one who paid off stormy daniels, that he was the one doing negotiation, but other witnessvise basically said he's not trustworthy, and he -- in a bunch of explicit words i won't say, you know, bleep hole and

other things. and it also came out in cross-examination and not on direct, which i'm surprised that mr. davidson was under investigation for what he allegedly did to hulk hogan, and that he was sus spended from the practice of law. those bad acts of him should have come out on direct examination by the prosecutor, so that way the jury doesn't think why didn't they bring that out, what were they hiding? so the defense was successful with this witness because they got what they wanted from him. >> can we talk specifically about one thing you just said, establishing that keith davidson only spoke to michael cohen and not donald trump. why -- explain to the viewers why that is a significant development. >> because so far we know from the first witness, david pecker, who was great, that, yes, donald trump in august was in a meeting with cohen and mr. pecker and

that the agreement at the national enquirer would suppress negative information, and pecker would be his eyes and ears. but what pecker also testified to, basically after that he really didn't deal with donald trump. the go-to guy for pecker was michael cohen. michael cohen was the one who negotiated everything. what's important about that is the prosecution had to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that donald trump had when these records were falsified, had the intent to do that, to defraud and had the intent to commit or conceal another crime. donald trump, he had to have that. so so far the only witness who we know is going to say did that was michael cohen. so far what's been corroborated is michael cohen's actions. now, davidson did say it was his belief that the $130,000 cohen wasn't going to come up with

that. it was his belief it was going to be trump or some corporate entity, but his belief is not the same as knowing for a fact. >> nbc news legal analyst catherine christian, thank you so much. really appreciate you unpacking the day for us. and still ahead we'll take an early look at what's driving the day on wall street including what caused apple shares to climb in extended trading. we'll tell you about the tech giant's big announcement next on "way too early." "way too early." it's a beautiful... ...day to fly. wooooo! did you know that if you shave,

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day for markets on wall street. futures do suggest it'll be a positive start for the trading session today. and no doubt that all eyes will be on that key labor report. in terms of estimates, let me share them with you. nonfarm payrolls are expected to show a gain of 240,000 for the month. that's according to dow jones estimates. and when it comes to the unemployment rate that's actually seen holding steady at 3.8%. let me tell you why this is so important because the fed will be looking closely at these numbers as well. we actually heard from jerome powell earlier this week saying it is unlikely the fed's next move will be a rate hike. however, the question about how much and when the fed will cut rates is still very much a concern for market players and monitoring that very closely. and today's data is likely to feed into that narrative. >> and so the shares of apple rose in extended trading

yesterday. can you tell us why that happened? >> absolutely. so first of all, let me share that the numbers for the quarter actually came in slightly higher than what analysts were expecting. but we did see revenues fallen by 4% and perhaps even more importantly iphone sales were down by 10%. but let elme tell you what investors enjoyed about this release. apple released their largest ever share buy back program of 110 billion u.s. dollars. this is massive and clearly investors enjoyed that by sending shares higher by 7% in the extended trade. let me share this also with you, when it comes to ipad sales, we haven't seen apple coming out with new ipads since 2022. so mark it on your calenders may 17th we are expecting apple to announce new ipads, and that could actually provide a bit of a boom and boost, really to this part of the business. let's see what they have to reveal in a couple of days time.

>> finally i've pin waiting for my new ipad, thank god. and finally there's a major shakeup going on at peloton, another company of interest to me. what's the latest going on there? >> so i'm afraid here not so much positive news. we heard from peloton saying that the ceo, barry mccarthy, will be stepping down. he's been at the helm of the company since february 2022. but there's more. the company also announced they will be laying off 15% of their staff. and on top of that, they also said they'll continue to close retail showrooms and make changes to their international sales plan. all of this put together just shows the amount of pressure that this company is under at this stage. let's see whether all these cost cutting measures will pay off. but no doubt a lot of pressure here on peloton. let's see whether they'll deliver in the coming years. >> got to think pandemic-era

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we're learning now more about the police response to the protests at columbia university. according to nypd an officer's gun accidently went off while police were removing pro-palestinian protesters from a building on campus. officers arrived at the campus tuesday night almost 24 hours after the protesters occupied hamilton hall. it's not known whose gun discharged, but police say it happened while the officer was approaching a barricade on the first floor. the nypd says the bullet struck

a frame in the wall but that no one was injuredmism only police personnel were there when the gun was fired. the nypd says it handed over the body camera footage to the manhattan district attorney's office. more than 100 people were arrested tuesday night. the district attorney says 46 of them were arraigned on one count of criminal cres passing. all of them were inside hamilton hall. the university says out of that group 13 people were not affiliated with the university. joining us now is msnbc law enforcement analyst cedric alexander. he was a member of president barack obama's task force. tell us what differences do you see in the way that police responded to the situation on columbia's campus and the situation at ucla? >> well, it is very clear to us

from information that's been gathered over the last number of days that in new york city nypd really did a great job working in collaboration with the leadership there at columbia university in order to present a plan in order to coordinate that plan in a way in which they're able to affect the result without incident. it should not be taken lightly when police have to come into a situation with a search where you've had so much controversy and politics tied to that particular event on that campus. and it had been ruling for days before nypd was even requested to come in. but nypd did everything it was supposed to do, it surveilled the area utilizing the technology of drones, cameras, et cetera. they work would the administration and developed a plan for themselves and had the appropriate number of officers they needed to engage and make

it successful, and it was successful without incident. and i think what we're going to see going forward is that type of preparation in these types of events. now at ucla i think part of the issue is that was allowed to move for so long, and that fortified fence we saw that was building stronger every day made it much more difficult for the state police there in california to complete their mission. but still they entered onto the campus of ucla. they were well-coordinated. they did have the amount of officers that they needed to have. and here again police along working with the university community and its leadership were able to bring those tents down and make the necessary arrests they needed to make in identifying people and what their roles were and making sure that they were properly charged. so hats off to both of those agencies and other agencies across the country that are

dealing with a very, very difficult situation, which we all know, jonathan, police are always going to be under a great deal of scrutiny. but they appear to have already done a stellar job as it relates to what has been occurring lately. >> cedric, what do you say to the criticisms that police were heavy-handed, you didn't need to have that much force. and secondly, can you address why a gun went off among the officers who were in hamilton hall? >> well, police are prepared for the criticism they're going to receive. they knew if they went in with too few officers they would not have been able to effect the mission. but when you have enough officers and they're well supervised which we saw and able to utilize assets if you need them and have them stand back and increase resources in order to keep things at peace and show some force that in many ways

will minimize further damage or conflict, certainly you do so. so there's always going to be the criticism that it's just part of the job but you stay focused on the mission. you do what is legal and morally and ethically right in those things, and they did. now, as it relates to a weapon being fired accidently, that is not anything unusual. that can happen. it can be just a situation where they may have gone into that building, may have gone into a dark room not knowing what was on the other side. it's a variety of things that could have happened, so i don't want to overspeculate here, but no one was hurt. it was a misfire. and i'm quite sure they're going to get further into that. and it will become a learning and training opportunity as they go forward. but i'm not overexcited about it. i just think it's one of those things in which when you have

these types of missions under that type of pressure and going into a building that is dark, people are hiding, you don't know whether they have weaponry or not, and you have an accidental misfire here. so that will be investigated, and i think it really -- all of us in particular those on the scene will learn something from it, and hopefully that does not happen again. >> all right, msnbc law enforcement analyst cedric alexander, thank you very, very much. and still ahead we'll show you president biden's new ad hitting donald trump over recent comments about abortion. coming up on "morning joe" the take-aways from trump's day in court yesterday and what to expect today when the former president's criminal trialnow. plus, we'll hear from democratic congressman josh gottheimer of new jersey about what congress is doing to curb anti-semitism on college campuses. also, award-winning actor

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the biden campaign is out with a new ad hitting donald trump for comments he made about abortion this week. take a look. >> donald trump's new comments on abortion, saying that some states might choose to monitor women's pregnancies to possibly prosecute women who violate abortion bans. >> two years ago, i became pregnant with a baby i desperately wanted. i learned that the fetus would have a fatal condition and never survive. because of the new laws in texas, i had to flee my own state to receive treatment. if donald trump is elected, that is the end of a woman's right to choose. there will be no place to turn. we could lose our rights in every state, even the ones where abortion is currently legal. that means every woman in every state is at risk. donald trump took away our freedom. we need leaders that will

protect our rights and not take them away, and that's joe biden and kamala harris. >> i'm joe biden, and i approve this message. >> president biden shared the ad in a post on x yesterday, writing along with it, quote, "donald trump took away women's freedom. i'm fighting to protect your rights." in a follow-up post, he added, quote, "trump is worried voters will hold him accountable for the chaos he created." they will. meanwhile, president biden hit the campaign trail yesterday, stopping in north carolina, a possibly swing state this november. as my colleagues at "politico" report, he can shift messaging to domestic issues after the passage of a foreign aid bill last week that included $60 billion for ukraine. focused on how the american rescue plan has impacted north carolina with $2 billion going to 800 projects to improve drinking water. the president noted communities of color have been affected most by dangerous lead levels.

>> this is about safety, but it is also about basic fairness. nationally, we're directing nearly half the funding to disadvantaged communities, half of him, who have born the brunt of lead poisoning for so long. studies show communities of color have been the hardest hit. we have to make things right. we're going to make them right now. [ applause ] >> joining us now is national politics reporter for "axios," sophia cai. thank you so much. president biden is on the campaign trail. the trump campaign is playing what you call a, quote, game of trial tetris. that is a tongue twister. explain that for us. what to you mean? >> look, biden has been in the swing states, and trump's campaign looks very different. they've had to fit his rallies into just one workday. they've had to manage a candidate who is on trial and, thus, he has a lot of evening

hours. they've had to staff that. most importantly, they've had to work around this gag order. his political team is really deferring to his legal team in terms of when and how he can message about this particular case. this week, we're seeing that things look a lot different. he's no longer retweeting. he has kind of stayed away from talking about jurors. retweeting posts that talk about jurors. i mean, all of this means that he can't campaign in a normal way, and they've even had to add stops in new york that are more local, accessible, to keep donald trump happy. >> tell us about those local stops. they seem to be -- the desire of them seems to be hitting messaging. going to a bodega. what are they doing here? >> first, he is from new york, from queens. he does feel comfortable. also, his first week during opening statements, he

complained to his aides privately that there was not enough crowds supporting him. you know, he wondered where they were. as a result of that, his aides set up a local stop at a construction site with some supporters that they had put together. then this week, he met some firefighters, some first responders. i mean, those are folks he does feel comfortable with, but also an opportunity for him to get the cameras. for, you know, the reporters to ask him questionsbriefly about issues, instead of listening in court and hearing people talk about him. >> you can sense a palpable frustration that trump has sitting there. let's shift. you have reporting on trump's short list of potential running mates. who is up for consideration? >> governor doug burgum is a name that trump has been putting out there to people he talks to pretty regularly. we haven't heard his name much

since he was running for president. now, here's why donald trump likes him. you know, just keep in mind, right now he is hot on doug burgum. that could change. here's why. doug burgum is a second-term governor. he is fairly serious. trump will say he is low drama and reliable. he is also fairly wealthy. that is someone who is pretty safe to put on the ticket with him. most importantly, you know, this guy is conservative but also the trump team sees him as being able to pull in some moderate voters. so they sent him to new hampshire, a place where nikki haley got more than 43% of the vote. i mean, that's fairly significant and tells you where trump and his priorities right now are. >> who isn't hot on doug burgum, sophia cai? thank you so much. appreciate the insights and the reporting. really appreciate it.

thank you for getting up "way too early" with us on this friday morning. "morning joe" starts right now. we are not an authoritarian nation where we silence people or squash dissent. the american people are heard. in fact, peaceful protest is the best tradition of how america responds to consequential issues. but, but neither are we a lawless country. we are a civil society. order must prevail. >> that's president joe biden for the first time publicly addressing the protests on campuses across the country. we'll have more of his comments and bring you the very latest on the demonstrations. plus, we're still six months away from the presidential election, but donald trump is already suggesting that he will not accept the results if he loses. we'll bring you that. and president biden's response. and we'll have