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please comment on it like it, sarah, and don't forget to subscribe to. i'll tell we've posted it is on the environment every friday. the presidential elections in russia of the usual full gun conclusion was nothing left to john, not even the desk in jail as the leading opposition figure. i'll explain about me, whose name colton. couldn't bring himself to speak. my guess is the russian commentary to andre kalashnikov, who had split kindly. he rush, are you ready just sense it in moscow? wasn't a valid me such a serious threat to put in his regime because he had to be killed even to be imprisoned when it was a threat to pretend that competitor may be invisible in an information field about the same time, quite mighty. and way to compress it for the parts of the population. and because
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of that, it was important to let's see, eliminate him from the political fuel. so what's it like to live with the government that kills its political opponents, unseen from moscow? why the southern states of warnings by nato officials about a russian attack over the next few years. what do they know? we don't the right color slick of welcome to come fix on it. so it's much, it's time for presidential elections in russia of id may. i put in once a 5th time, that'd be my posing always gets what he wants is this is close to absolute power as it gets in russia. yes, so this is one more step to choose absolute power. but so when we are asking our sales, where was this turning point? for she seems as a decrease of michigan, mostly because the development of his interview was somewhere in the year 2020.
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when he told the referendum about some of the med, most of the constitution, the main think about 0 and copious present initial terms. and now she is over to the president. and after that, all the doors were open for any steps. functions sites like to this war of february 22, 22. unfortunately of no other means the same year 2020 it doesn't have much to do with democracy. it doesn't. these elections, even mr. perkins spokesman dmitri pest golf, tell the new york times last year, presidential election isn't really a democracy. it's a costly bureaucracy. so why bother with this show? because this is one more attempt that demonstrates to the majority of the rest and populations that they, they are still the majority,
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which is obedience, indifference and ready to continue to accept the protest. initiatives as, as important events, minority minority is a must understand that they are still minorities as they can to influence. and i think is this country because we have a majority which is in flash which supports proteins. so nothing to do with this political system. we can't change anything because of that. so this election search to no significance is the same times as this one more. really rounds aflac. why not to, to repeat this kind of really and to refresh the legitimacy or for the 0 to correct . oh, credible candidates of uh, being eliminated way before the polling stations open bar is not just in the anti war candidate. he was disqualified by the states because some traction for awhile. was he a, a threat?
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was he didn't that's right. the edition was squares attracted to the public who was liberal views and you know, in the rush or millions of people who are sharing to liberal pro the critic pro western the anti portion of the vision of the world. and because of the additions was kind of a fault for this people wednesday sun and it's pushing it and it was understandable . that's a criminal decide. it's not a low ocean to participate because she keeps it undermines the feeling of absolutes comes to the dish and around put him in a case of getting i don't know, $56.00, even 10 percent of it man into it could means that to pretend he's not the only one who is so who deserves. so the supports and there are people with the enter your agenda not to mention the terms of case and that doesn't include demonstrate to enter your agenda via television and the code. so shake because of use. so for
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the majority, which is still not connected to the to be set. so, so with no, they decided not to, not to risk you from that slide risk. i'm alexa and nobody that in a prison camp in the optic circle, once he ever really i'm electro threat to prove to or was it that he and others like him. we're never going to be allowed to get anywhere near that status. the only didn't have an opportunity to participate in the legal political process. but so when she does participate in the year 2013, during most goes mayor's elections, he was extremely efficient. astonishingly efficient for kremlin and death resistance. they decided to, you know, to allow him to participate in any kind of like options. so if it was a real threat to put an end to some moments. so moment to the means that pasta
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the whole political process reduced, busy. now this is fine between the fall knee and approach him and is that sense even being can prison that when it was a threat to pretend that competitor may be invisible in an information field about the same time, quite mighty and square to compress it for, for the parts of that population and because of that, it was important to let's see, eliminate him from the political field. do you by the story that he was about to be swapped for a kayla. so having time in germany, do you by that story? of, we don't know the truths may be, will not know it, but it looks like global story. and in this sense, simple, it wasn't requested dance. uh that she was,
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let's say maybe killed maybe by some maybe something else. so we have to wait for some results sofa. she's still able to search true. maybe is the gym to clear up some good deals. and i found this from an a is pretty clear and his colleagues are pretty clear that the state did kill him. you wouldn't seriously argue with that, would you? i would say like, the, so the experience, so this regime demonstrates that it's as possible. let's remember as a case of st policy or in any other cases and put in the several times repeated. you are anxious, courier, that's my pets, realty color oriented, or again, since people do that, but these and because of that among people with uh, let's say liberal views, there is no doubt. that's why they put the keels. uh no,
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no, we don't have the controls if evidence of it so, but the feeling is very strong. come on russian civil society. we know that they tried and failed to kill him back in 2020 and we know because the millions listened to a government assassin describing his previously unsuccessful attempt to kill him about me. little realizing that he was actually talking to him about the i'm being recorded by him at the time. so nobody's going to believe any government denials of a underscore. uh, you know, which means what do we mean by nobody to because of the majority to still to 1st to believe freedom main unofficial version. or prefer us not to think about this. the horrible story you know, so low to for russian. so they didn't know about the place of things that i didn't know about that the so it's not what it means. it in this camp near arctic circle,
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but the majority prefers not to boulder itself. uh uh, not to pay too much attention to, to this for us in order to keep for themselves mentally normal. um the subsea more old, but the majority prefers not to know. and it seems about uh like, uh, uh, casualties still with his uh does. so through etc, and because of that, that's more about belief in disbelief amongst people with the normal view. so democratic fused, we're going to invite from a lawyer at the human rights group. memorial said if they could kill nova on the baker, kill anybody else. if he's right, where does all this and all the killings all the political prisoners. why does this and i know the real threat is to political prisoners. i'm sure
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we don't have a political position in the proper sense of civil worth right now because of a high level of for patients kyra's in the, in names a substitute and una williams, the last year. so for his existence and i, i, i would say that unfortunately, for instance, people like to let him know cut them. it was a, or, yeah, yes. and could be under threats, but not everyone in dissidence community, but uh, the main, one of the most local people from mazda political, a position, because barto was a political position as a broad sub parts. so for the literacy are in prison. so for people who are in prison, so there was a real threat, i think unfortunately, you spoke off the volume, this funeral about moral resistance among the population, people carrying flowers and candles to his memorials. how much of that moral
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resistance is left in russia. uh, like a stress of sorts moral because as i said, political position isn't so efficient right now. and this is more about a moral resistance and about political resistance. this people can fight as a juvenile, to want to fight for power. they don't have full interest. so you don't have organizations which are totally liquidated, by the regime. even small in jewels about the dose of the most ways as a funeral and around the dentist way to that this single society still here. we must be for a society of such which is very different and passive, and full of conform is and that single society, the society of responsible citizens who as to who was the best, who for the country, for in
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a permanent order because of this war. they demonstrated that they are here, it was extra route step for people club for who were going to to the funeral because of the, the face recognition system is working and sometimes, but listening to coming to a to is if last. so was this people after a different kind of events, wolf funerals, like the link flowers as a man, as a place, as of man, there we go, for political repression, such cetera, et cetera. so if you want to see the so civil society of the russia we can overcome, for instance, the website over then for with the concrete statistics about persecutions, about criminal prosecutions, administrative persecutions, extrajudicial persecutions, a lot of examples of these kind of problems for russian citizens. but she resist civil society, which is still ready to resist and ready to at least to
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think of all the constitution, think about so as a responsibility, collective responsibility you, you talked about values, legacy. i'd like to know how long you think it will last, isn't it inevitable that as the years go by, that will be less and less opposition morrow or real refreshing work stuff and it repressions efficient? yes. for patients work, but at the same time no. this fatigue from room is also sheer. and in a case of mine, there was successful for a civil society and demonstration that was to use uh, some people quite hesitating corpus difficult for me says they can't share the view sofa. and this actually, if a single society activities a so in that sense or actually isn't hopeless and i've seen it with just like and
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so the times we, when men else, people were ready for change of skin color, which of key when government were much referred to could the power ends as being a bunch of population is also ready for changes, but so, you know, in current circumstances kind of a single though must came from the very top and the was out a change in the 1st person, i guess. so the serious changes in russia are impossible. veteran now, extraordinary efforts and you've outlined some of them to, to clamp down on even the slightest infractions of this expanding penal code that the author already is. keep adding to. we hear of teachers in schools reporting a 1011 year old pupils to the security police books, a band people are arrested on the metro because they were reading something. but the fellow passengers didn't like every case pursued with the utmost vigor and
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brutality. and i suppose my question is, is the state really that in secure about its, hold on paul and it's people, you know, it smarter bell cell development of russian style. all sorts here is my would say this is not simply and assorted terrorism is more about a name, it's high, but it's up to 2. it is the same utilitarianism because the state is trying to infiltrate into all this for yourselves. a private plan for people you to want it wants to control, for instance, theaters repair to ours. uh, uh, book markets, libraries, etc, etc. but nevertheless, this societies mother in license, this is for the well educated society and people are trying to keep for the private space to see more on more or less normal situation. and it looks us to print it's some, some movies are pretty cool with appear in this such
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a strange hospitality around space. so yeah, is there a difference? the threats like denunciations from your competitor else, but nevertheless, it is still, it is still civil society and i can repeat it as not so hopeless and get the chance survives this period. but the, the space of deliberate to you for freedom, my snare rooms, this is through but if you wants to do something, you can try. and some people are trying to, to write to articles, to be vocal, to, to, to talk, at least to talk about the constitution. it's, it's not sales, or it's not help does it by the fact that so many ordinary citizens a pay a willing to inform on each other on their colleagues and their families and their friends. how destructive is that to the fabric of russian society destroys trust
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of the yes it's true as to the trust is not so the strong side of the society is a trust each other. but some people simply prefer not to talk with the unknown persons. they prefer to talk to canal so who they are trying not to be so vocal sitting in congress for instance, to say preferred not to discuss political issues. this is true, but you know, it's the same time uh, again who, who wants to resist can try to do it. for instance, if there is such a new magazine which was initiated by the know below ritz mentioned more about the there's a title going to be in the corporation was gonna butcher foundation. and this is one of the attempts to, to, to, to, to create something to you,
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even in the circumstances. there was some problems with this magazine, but it is still in the fields. so why not to transfer this whole thing? and uh, this it's, it's a, it's contribute. so something i hope for the future when we talk about hope, let's also talk about the war and ukraine, which has, of course, exacerbated the repression level. good cause leading russian sociologist says there's a high degree of support for the war highest among the educated and the educated in moscow does not surprise you. yes, uh, is there a lot of surprising stories, especially in the field of mess psychology in meso silver chain. and uh, you know, this is all about people who are afraid of changing their life. so they are trying
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to avoid problems for themselves. which means that as a full flip, say, double thinking of a pretending the war doesn't exist. so they can to avoid the mentioning fee to thinking about the bolts they trained not to do it publicly made is the same people but who they want to continue as a career, as for instance, in the university. so something like that. but as a, a private spacing, their quizzes selected to us. and so we have time so they can discuss freely the current situation with the core, with the some assessments which are not public. let's see, this is more about privates assessments private life. so this is more about double thinking, you said, recent pay that put in those make clear russia is fighting a permanent background war with the west. best argument gives his image ration on
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his way to maintain power. does put in one fact war in your view. oh yes, she wants me. she's the main initiator, i'm sure. is that, and is this personal, this decreasing? put in was the main source of, of this war was this idea. ology, which justifies for the russian id, was nation alanta in nationalistic and imperialistic ideas. very archive and the deals to the, to the tradition send the spiritual values, etc, etc. and she must invent. so the goal for the society. so it's just not cold, municipal capitalism. and they invented some kremlin this permanent for, it was the best, the best was also taking us. so we must defense our sales and even the over expansion expansions, this is kind of, this is more about defense. and uh,
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but the reason the reports, reese, i'm sorry to interrupt you, reset the intelligence reports in the west of suggested russia intends to double the number of its troops on the border with the baltic states and finland. and people have spoken officials, government officials in several countries have spoken of the fact that that could possibly be attacked by russia on the nato countries over the next few years. how plausible do think that these things is suspicious. p r. o to be sold to, to, to, to, to look so mighty, so impressive. uh, uh, and i guess he wants to create i am, she's a political philosophies. this is a part of russia for sure. and she wants to get to as transferred, as he says. so this territories, and she doesn't care about the baltic states freelance or, or pulled this as
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a lip service in my opinion. she will not have enough resources for one more flank, one more front. uh, she simply wants to continue this permanent toward was the best as a goal for society, but at the same time, in the practical terms and apply it to her. and she doesn't want to, to take the, for instance, voltage stays because it will mean the real world was native. it would be much more serious. does this sort of attrition? that was ukraine. does nato look week to russia to put in the notes? so we come back to what was this very majority of the society, which in looks like a strong man, coolly queasy, equal to tomato, naturally smarter both human show for the main enemy, united states of america, nathan in europe is kind of has such a line of uh,
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of nato in the ends of united states. you said last months that despite old a new career saved by rattling but we've heard from food and they don't want the afraid of nuclear war. what makes you so sure of that uh, health as a you know, so as you settled the messenger, stay on with that. so you're going to use those. the technical the ukes could be suicidal for uh for say, a resume for a country. uh they want to leave for they want to enjoy this life and because of that, so yes, so the, so nuclear black mailing fees square, it's impressive and quite effective as it is quite effective because it's presented to preventive the west from giving the sophisticated weapons to you correct? yes. as a problem for actually so that's a very conversations that talk about the nuclear, where it became such
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a light. my talk, we can do it. why not? this is a main danger to proceed the domestic public so that it is possible. this is a danger a british historian wrote recently that society is like russia, autocracies, don't bend, but they can break. do you believe that after all russia has broken, the soviet union broke up the button wall came down, communism was denounced as a failed experiment. under what circumstances do you think russia could conceivably come apart? now, you know, when we're talking about this, the future ends, the behavior of our leads. they're behaving like that, according to the drover up in order to look after us as it is a slot. and in that sense, they hold, this is a have enough resources to continue this war until the physical end of uh,
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putting them to his team. but uh, the resources could be depleted. and the next generation though, for petitions they will have to take responsibility for the country. fully european security and this as an interest of the west coast call and interest. so no mutual interest of the russians at west said to have a new generation of people who can recreate discounts for you from 0 this summer, full count, because the services, i'm not to the terminal. so the bills are full. russia, that's the alexa in a valley you talked about does exist somewhere down the line and you'll view it exists in the, in the soul, southern brain. so for pro democratic russians as they are here and as they will be ready for changes when the time will count. i'm very cold last night golf. thank you very much for being on comforting. so. thank you. thank you for having me here
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